Islamic State Has Claimed Responsibility For Nice.

[ladybirder]

No question. Only answers if possible.

[Gromit]

Mushroom,
I suppose my use of the term "not a proper terrorist" was ambiguous.
I meant I doubt he was afiliated to any terrorist organisation, and that he was a sleeper, and working under orders or to some plan. He was a loner who carried out mass murder for a his own reason, not to advance jhad.

[Zacs-Master]

So, we're all agreed. Islamic state hasn't, in fact, claimed responsibility for Nice.

[mushroom25]

i don't believe we agreed that at all, ZM. in any case, it's not true; ISIS have claimed responsibility.
https://twitter.com/search?q=amaq%20agency&src=rela

I think what you meant to say was that we agree there's no evidence of truth to that claim.

[Gromit]

Zacs,
Guardian:
// in a statement on Saturday, the news agency Amaq, which supports Isis, said: “The person who carried out the operation in Nice, France, to run down people was one of the soldiers of Islamic State. He carried out the operation in response to calls to target nationals of states that are part of the coalition fighting Islamic State.” //

They have claimed the killer was responding to their call. But there is as yet no proof of that, and I am not just accepting terrorists propaganda as proof.

[Zacs-Master]

I'm a funny old bod. I like to go with facts as they are known at the time rather than speculate that something may come along, at some timein the future to disprove what is actual fact. In fact.

[anneasquith]

I'll wait for official information.

[trt]

## Yes trt they could just be claiming responsibility because they urged supporters to get in a vehicle and go out and kill people etc etc. ##

Up to about 10 min ago on the news, there is no definite proof yet, that the ISIS were responsible.

Follow the facts!

[retrocop]

This,sadly,was the prediction about two days before the Nice atrocity made by the head of French DGIS( Equivalent to British MI5 security service). Obviously he had some knowledge that DAESH were going to change tactics somehow and was correct about 'lone commandos'.




//He also said he is ‘convinced’ that Islamic State will change its tactics in France, and increase its firepower, which until now has mainly relied on outdated AK-47 rifles and suicide belts.

He said he feared a move towards car bombs and more conventional explosive devices, allowing terrorists to attack without risking their own lives, and that he believed Islamist extremists will look to use booby-trapped cars in the future.

He said: ‘I’m convinced they’ll go to booby-trapped vehicles and bombs, thus upping their power.

‘We know very well they’re going to use this mode of operating.

‘They’re going to end up sending commandos whose mission is to organise terrorist campaigns without necessarily going to the assault with death awaiting them.’//

[Gromit]

Retrocop,
The French DGIS prediction was worse than mine. He said IS would go to car bombs and the IS operatives would survive. Neither of those things happened at Nice, if it was a IS attack.

[mikey4444]

I can see, as yet, there is no sign of ISIS planning and carrying out this atrocity. He might have been influenced by a misguided and twisted view of Islam but there is no evidence that it went any further than that.

As far as I see it, it was a lone-wolf attack. The so-called Islamic State would own up to the everything, given half the chance.

[naomi24]

//Attack on Nice: Five held by French police//

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36813959

[jourdain2]

All 16 year-olds are required to register with their local mairie. This means that they can be called upon for any sort of national service. A letter went to every house, every year -I received several.

[jourdain2]

^^^ May have got onto the wrong post, sorry.

[naomi24]

Funny you should say that, Jourdain. France is now calling on 'patriotic citizens' to join the reserves.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36817435

[jourdain2]

It figures, Naomi.

[naomi24]

Indeed it does.

[ladybirder]

Ni idea what you are on about trt. I was agreeing with you. I think!

[naomi24]

Ladybirder, Who are you talking to?

[naomi24]

Sorry Ladybirder, I've just seen 'trt' in your post. Now I know I'm tired. :o/

[ladybirder]

LOL me too. He posted page 1 at 11.11, I responded at 11.17, then he posted again at 14.05 and seems a bit ratty and I can't make out why. I thought we agreed with each other. Perhaps I'd better go to bed.
Night.