Pc49 Changes Into Robo Cop

[anotheoldgit]

To all the Islamic sympathisers on here who often say, "we have always had killings on our streets" or "we have always had terrorism, just look at the IRA", I say this:

"That may well be, but the change from PC49 to Robo Cop, lies firmly at the door of ISLAM".

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[ummmm]

Andy - and what about their treatment of women?

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// Andy - and what about their treatment of women? ///

They are not all like that, only the majority.

[ummmm]

I don't believe the majority treat females with utter disrespect but their religion allows it, or excuses it.

*other religions are guilty too

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //ummmm

/// Andy - and what about their treatment of women? ///

They are not all like that, only the majority. //

And how exactly do you know this?

Are you advised by the majority of Muslim men how they treat the women in their families?

Or do you rely on the standard stereotyping that passes for informed knowledge about another culture from a large number of the UK populace?

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// *other religions are guilty too ///

Always safe to steer on the side of caution.

[ummmm]

Andy...the Muslim man who works for us enjoys doing housework. In his words if he told his fellow Muslims they'd think his wife was dead!

Wives are there to wait on the man folk.

[ummmm]

AOG - I do not know enough Muslim people to make a judgement.

[andy-hughes]

ummm - //AOG - I do not know enough Muslim people to make a judgement. //

None of us do!

But that only stops some of us from making a judgement anyway!

[ToraToraTora]

they are regulars in Gromit's Tibetan wheat grass Tea shop togo!

[ummmm]

I don't judge, Andy, I'm happy with my 'be nice to me and I'll be nice to you' attitude...aimed at everyone regardless.

[andy-hughes]

ummm - //I don't judge, Andy, I'm happy with my 'be nice to me and I'll be nice to you' attitude...aimed at everyone regardless. //

That makes you a rarity on this section!!

[naomi24]

from andy-hughes: //I believe that Islam is a peaceful religion that has been hijacked by a small group of terrorists who use it as a cloak to hide their entirely secular and power-based aims, and to indulge in their terrorists activities in the belief that this gives them some level of pseudo-respectability - at least to each other. //

He is appallingly mistaken.

[naomi24]

//I am sure we can all allow her a little 'settling in' time before we jump on her for not knowing quite how we like to express views here. //

Anyone know who 'we' is?

[Olivio]

To those who appear to suffer with Islamaphobia, have any of you went to a Mosque, had a talk and seen the goings on and the inner workings of a moderate and peaceful organisation or do we sit behind the settee wringing our hands and tearing out our hair at what we are fed by the media before heroically spluttering outrage and fear on the internet to likeminded folk?

Never live in fear unnecessarily.

My motto has always been "If in doubt,close the computer and get out and about"

[naomi24]

Olivio, many of those here who appear to suffer with Islamophobia only appear that way to people who know nothing about Islam. They’ve often done rather more than visit a mosque occasionally, which incidentally, would never educate anyone in the ‘inner workings’ of a religion that is, for its adherents, a complete way of life.

[THECORBYLOON]

"Couldn't be that we now have incidents or threatened incidents, that this country has never experienced before? " do the terrorist atrocities in Great Britain and Ulster since the 1960s not count then?

[jourdain2]

Olivio - I'd like to support Naomi's response to your post. I taught in Bradford and Halifax over a period of 30 years, so I know a fair bit about Islam and Muslims. I am not Islamophobic - but I do recognise the huge differences which imbue their culture and outlook and the problems which result for our culture and country as a result of the presence of enormous numbers of them.

[naomi24]

THECORBYLOON, yes they count and I don't believe that anyone trivialises them - but they weren't 7/7 - and further afield, 9/11.

[andy-hughes]

// from andy-hughes: //I believe that Islam is a peaceful religion that has been hijacked by a small group of terrorists who use it as a cloak to hide their entirely secular and power-based aims, and to indulge in their terrorists activities in the belief that this gives them some level of pseudo-respectability - at least to each other. //

He is appallingly mistaken. //

Being 'mistaken' - and that's just an opinion, so let's not have it stated as a fact - is an absolute.

I am either mistaken or I am not mistaken, there are no degrees, so let's leave out the Mail-esque additions which are not only inflated opinion, but grammatically inaccurate.

[anotheoldgit]

Olivia

/// or do we sit behind the settee wringing our hands and tearing out our hair at what we are fed by the media before heroically spluttering outrage and fear on the internet to likeminded folk? ///

If you are not fed by the media, how do you know what is going off around the world, or are you privileged to obtain your information from source?

And I realise you are new to this site, but perhaps you hadn't noticed that it is called the 'News' section, so one is encouraged to debate on the current news, and how you can tell we are "sitting behind the settee wringing our hands and tearing out our hair" only you knows, perhaps you gain that information from the source that only you has privilege to?