French Migrant Family Need At Least Six Double Rooms To Be Comfortable.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3777922/Jobless-couple-eight-children-say-neglected-council-offered-new-five-bed-home-didn-t-dining-room.html

No one forced you to have eight kids, go back to France if you are not satisfied.

[fiction-factory]

We must ensure that this family have a dining room in keeping with what they are accustomed to in ....Cameroon.

So how do we do that? I thought they are French though so Cameroon is not relevant is it.

Not seen any workable suggestions yet but maybe by 2021 or so things might be different.

[THEMOTLEY1]

Does this give you a clue FF, maybe you are not a taxpayer so you are on their side?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1740960/jobless-couple-with-eight-kids-says-family-have-been-neglected-by-council-who-only-offered-five-bedroom-house/

[Togo]

Well they must be given a French dining room then. The palace of Versailles perhaps, as long as it is in France.

[DTCwordfan]

so is French Guyana and Air Chance have flights there....

[Togo]

F-f they both originate from Cameroon before moving to France, and then Luton. We must be mad.

[fiction-factory]

So if they were just from France with no Cameroon connection would that make things different Togo?

>Does this give you a clue FF, maybe you are not a taxpayer so you are on their side?
What makes you think I'm on their side?

All this indignation may not be good for anyone's health- unless it's a form of therapy to post on here- but i doubt the people in authority will pay much attention to what they read on here. If anyone has any practical ideas maybe they should raise them with their MP, the DWP, the NHS or the university.

[anneasquith]

I don't blame this family, they are just abusing a system that politician have allowed to occur. Offer them a house, if they refuse evict them . and im sure a much cheaper b&b could have been found.

[-Talbot-]

fiction-factory
So if they were just from France with no Cameroon connection would that make things different Togo?




Not for me, Europeans should not be allowed to just chance their arm in the UK. It is ludicrous to let people come over here penniless and live 25 per house and coach them how to survive in the UK, or even live under bridges as some do. Madness.

[Togo]

No ff. The UK was never a part of the Schengen free movement madness, but does take in refugees and asylum seekers. Now if these people moved to France, and they did, and were living in and granted French citizenship, how come they ended up in Luton? Asylum? Refugees? Chancers? Or is France in a position to allow anyone they care to into their country, with the tacit proviso that they can move them on to the UK anytime they so desire? Were they in danger in France, is it now deemed to be an unsafe country, were they fleeing a war zone in France, who encouraged them to come to the UK, how many others are these people encouraging to follow?

[fiction-factory]

Madness, madness, they call it madness....
Well Brexit may see an end to it in around 4 years time - or maybe not- we'll have to see. But if we are still short of health service professionals and have the best universities maybe even post-Brexit we'd need to allow people to come here to study or work and give them similar rights as they have now regarding benefits. Or we could make our benefits system far less attractive by only taking into consideration the first 3 (say) children, whether the families are British or European or African heritage

[fiction-factory]

Togo- you asked "how come they ended up in Luton? Asylum? Refugees? Chancers? ". He was a French citizen you say. He was then offered a place on a medical course and someone here said he was funded by the NHS. i assume he therefore had the right as an EU citizen to move here just as do others who have a job or I assume university place

[ummmm]

He's training in mental health. He's never going to earn enough to support 10 people so even when qualified they'll still be getting quite a lot in benefits.

[ummmm]

When I worked in a psychiatric hospital people being funded for these courses were still expected to work.

[fiction-factory]

Yes, but that's the way our benefit system works. I expect a trainee nurse born and bred here with 8 children wold also get benefits.
The problem is that the NHS/University who gave him the place don't also have to pay any resultant costs - maybe if the DWP billed them in these cases hey would think twice, but of course that would open up discrimination issues.

[jourdain2]

Slightly off subject. They chose to have all these children. I would have loved another baby (likely to have ended up degree-level and useful, like the ones I have) but couldn't afford to move to another house if it had been a boy (I have 2 girls). Why, oh why, should I be paying for this lot? The house looks OK. With bunk-beds etc. they can manage.

I can't, really can't, understand why (in this day and age of efficient contraception) the State (i.e. I) should pay child allowance over the required number of babies per couple, i.e.2. Stop child allowance after the first 2 except in the case of multiple births.

[Togo]

Discrimination issues? Based on what? You man rites, colour,( the NHS?) not being able to handle the course, having no dining room for 10 people.?

[ummmm]

divebuddy - the hospital I worked at funded current staff to get qualified (selected staff) and they were still expected to book in shifts.

What I don't understand is funding someone when they nothing about his ambitions and work ethics.

[fiction-factory]

Yes Togo. The NHS or any company/institution can't say " we would offer you a place/job based on your skills/abilities but because you have got children we will offer it to a single person with no children instead", that would be seen a s discrimination