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Cracks Beginning To Show For Merkel?
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Berlin state poll: Losses for Merkel's CDU, gains for AfD
http:// www.bbc .co.uk/ news/wo rld-eur ope-374 03542
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.As I implied earlier, my view is that the German establishment and the 'Brussels dictatorship' refer to the AfD as "far right", useing it as a term of abuse, preferring to accentuate it's (sensible) policies about immigration, but it's other political concern and policy - and how it came into being - is if anything rather "left", and scares them more, which is a call for the abolition of the rigid eurozone which has created such suffering to the poorer members.
The economist, Martin Wolf has said, "The euro has been a disaster, no other word will do". He points out that The United States had a strong political union and national banking system before it created a currency union. Europe went at the project from the other direction. Nations within the euro cannot conduct their own monetary policy, if they need to increase exports they can only increase productivity via higher unemployment and lower wages.
As Wolf says The Shifts and Shocks "The mechanism of the Eurozone adjustment is simply that of the old gold standard, and forces misery on nations in the name of preserving a stable exchange rate".
How much longer the eurozone (and the EU itself) can continue in its present form is open to debate.
The economist, Martin Wolf has said, "The euro has been a disaster, no other word will do". He points out that The United States had a strong political union and national banking system before it created a currency union. Europe went at the project from the other direction. Nations within the euro cannot conduct their own monetary policy, if they need to increase exports they can only increase productivity via higher unemployment and lower wages.
As Wolf says The Shifts and Shocks "The mechanism of the Eurozone adjustment is simply that of the old gold standard, and forces misery on nations in the name of preserving a stable exchange rate".
How much longer the eurozone (and the EU itself) can continue in its present form is open to debate.
You might like to read this Khandro
http:// www.tel egraph. co.uk/n ews/201 6/09/20 /new-ge rman-mp -with-r ising-r ight-wi ng-part y-once- describ ed-chur ch/
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The AfD are UKIP equivalents. People will vote for them as a protest vote in local elections, but they don't want them running the country. The German State elections are next year, so Merkle has plenty of time to win.
There is also a misreading. The thread to Merkel's Conservatives is from the Socialists, not from the AfD.
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// This is why the Tory/Lib coalition might be one of the more popular governments of recent years. Not that many will admit it in much more than a whisper. //
Surely you mean least popular? Conservative voters hated the coalition, Labour voters thought it was a con, and Lib Dems were acutely embarrased by getting into bed with the Tories (hence they went from 57 MPs to just 8). Your notion that it was popular is hard to fathom.
There is also a misreading. The thread to Merkel's Conservatives is from the Socialists, not from the AfD.
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// This is why the Tory/Lib coalition might be one of the more popular governments of recent years. Not that many will admit it in much more than a whisper. //
Surely you mean least popular? Conservative voters hated the coalition, Labour voters thought it was a con, and Lib Dems were acutely embarrased by getting into bed with the Tories (hence they went from 57 MPs to just 8). Your notion that it was popular is hard to fathom.
Zacs; Thanks for that link, it exactly proves my point. By taking a statement of what one AfD member said at sometime in the distant past, isn't sufficient justification for the denigration of a whole movement.
(and if you had been a German resident of Dresden in February 1945, you might have had a different view of Churchill and his 'Bomber' Harris, than you now have.)
As to the other; "Another of the party’s victorious candidates is a former leader of a German extremist group modelled on the English Defence League (EDL)."
Not very good reporting, even by the standard of the Telegraph. An attempt to score points without mentioning who, when, or to which party they refer.
Somewhere above I posted a link to the AfD's manifesto, why not take a look for yourself.
(and if you had been a German resident of Dresden in February 1945, you might have had a different view of Churchill and his 'Bomber' Harris, than you now have.)
As to the other; "Another of the party’s victorious candidates is a former leader of a German extremist group modelled on the English Defence League (EDL)."
Not very good reporting, even by the standard of the Telegraph. An attempt to score points without mentioning who, when, or to which party they refer.
Somewhere above I posted a link to the AfD's manifesto, why not take a look for yourself.
Khandro, I'm clearly not a resident of Dresden in 1945 and its not just the statement of one person. The article states:
Mr Gläser, the party’s spokesman in Berlin and one of its new MPs, is a senior journalist at Junge Freiheit, a far-Right newspaper.
Kay Nerstheimer, another of the AfD’s new MPs, is a former regional leader of the German Defence League (GDL), a group explicitlymodelled on the EDL.
Every article I can find refers to them as far right.
And as for that one sheet of A4 they call a manifesto.......it has all the flair of a greasy spoon menu.
Mr Gläser, the party’s spokesman in Berlin and one of its new MPs, is a senior journalist at Junge Freiheit, a far-Right newspaper.
Kay Nerstheimer, another of the AfD’s new MPs, is a former regional leader of the German Defence League (GDL), a group explicitlymodelled on the EDL.
Every article I can find refers to them as far right.
And as for that one sheet of A4 they call a manifesto.......it has all the flair of a greasy spoon menu.
Zacs: I agree, Nerstheimer is one of the more radical members, but the Berlin constituents elected him and you have to ask, why?
What you have read and describe as a 'greasy spoon menu' is an extremely brief synopsis of one part, in English, here is the full version;
https:/ /www.al ternati vefuer. de/wp-c ontent/ uploads /sites/ 7/2016/ 03/Leit antrag- Grundsa tzprogr amm-AfD .pdf
What you have read and describe as a 'greasy spoon menu' is an extremely brief synopsis of one part, in English, here is the full version;
https:/
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