What Should Black People In America Do, To Avoid Being Killed By Police Officers?

[sp1814]

Last month, we found out that being a professional psychologist lying flat on the ground doesn't stop bullets, and now being a pastor with hands raised doesn't work either:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/terence-crutcher-fatally-shot-by-tulsa-police-a7317531.html

As these gentlemen weren't gangsters, exactly what should black people do now?

[sp1814]

divebuddy

But don't you think that these figures are a diversion?

The crux of the matter is this - "If you're running around with a gun sticking out of your waistband and are shot by the police, more fool you."

But that's wholly different to, "If your car breaks down and you're a middle aged professional, even if you're lying on the ground, or have your hands up in the air, well more fool you for being black...coz lots of black people are in jail."

[ummmm]

Divebuddy - I don't think FF can open links from his phone.

[mikey4444]

So it was HIS fault that he got shot then !

Well, its all very clear now. Don't venture out of the house, if you think that there is even an outside chance that there will be any Police in the immediate vicinity that haven't shot anybody today.

Strewth !

[RandyMarsh]

Fact like this chap was unarmed?

[ummmm]

And hadn't committed a crime.

[mikey4444]

AB...all these stats that you are putting out may very well be true, but it still doesn't excuse how an innocent person, going about his lawful business should have been killed by a careless, trigger-happy Police Officer

....and that is all we are saying.

[RandyMarsh]

You are the one who are issuing the sound bites divebuddy to try to justify the fact that this unarmed person was shot.

[RandyMarsh]

awesome

[RandyMarsh]

how can one contest with sometimes police shoot unarmed people and the judge says it is ok?

Another level.

[agchristie]

What should black people do?...

My answer to this is simply the same as what white people should do. If an officer makes a request asking someone to get out of a vehicle, put hands in the air or show documents, then that person should comply and minimise any risk of having a weapon drawn on him/her. Do not allow negative body language to give rise to suspicion or make any sudden irregular, jerky movements that may give the wrong impression.

Obviously, there are going to be situations where the police get it wrong, sometimes where the officer is believed to be at serious risk of harm.

So, there is very little a suspect can do to avoid the scenarios referred to. The question is more relevant to what the law enforcement agencies can do to avoid repetition.

It could be that officers require further training or techniques to avoid a situation escalating. Or, the police could meet and work with certain groups to explain better their actions and work towards improved relations and enhance their reputation. Disciplinary procedures should be robust and where a serious breach has occurred then officers should be accountable.

These incidents seem to be avoidable but where there is a case to answer they should be vigorously investigated and appropriate action taken.

[RandyMarsh]

"It's not that unusual for the police to shoot an unarmed person and the subsequent enquiry to conclude that the officer did not act incorrectly. That has happened often enough in this country, never mind America."

It is not unusual for the police to kill an unarmed person and be told that they did the right thing.

Your words, arguably unsupportable but definitely another level.

[RandyMarsh]

Now I am having to explain your posts to you.