Ched Evans - Not Guilty

[Bazile]

I haven't been following this story , myself

He has been found not guilty


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-37659009

[naomi24]

I don't think she's entitled to slander people on mainstream television and I'm guessing that's what his family's problem is.

[ummmm]

She didn't slander him. I watched the programme. She said nothing more than wasn't reported in the papers. The Ched Evan's case just opened up a discussion about consent.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //I don't think she's entitled to slander people on mainstream television and I'm guessing that's what his family's problem is. //

The definition of slander is 'making a false spoken statement' - and I am not sure that anything Ms. Hunniford has said is actually untrue.

And, as I have said, she prefaced her observations by saying that she was voicing her opinion, and I believe, although I don't know, that putting a point with that preface will mean she cannot be sued.

We shall see - but I repeat my second point - the best thing for all concerned, especially Mr Evans, since he has the highest public profile in the incident and court case, is that everyone gets on with things, and lets the controversy die a natural death in the eyes of the media and the public.

[naomi24]

ummmm/andy-hughes, his family, it appears, disagree with you.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //ummmm/andy-hughes, his family, it appears, disagree with you. //

They do, for perfectly understandable reasons.

But I think an objective view, and any competent legal counsel will offer that, is that they have no case to bring because they will not win in court, and they would be better served by letting this go - further media attention is someone no-one needs.

[ummmm]

They might disagree but they're wrong.

[andy-hughes]

divebuddy - //The Evans family won't decide whether to sue or not. Their legal team will make that decision. I think we can be sure that they at least know they are doing. //

I think that is inaccurate.

I think the Evans family will decide whether or not to sue.

I think that a legal counsel who has their interests at heart will advise them not to proceed because the case is in all probability unwinnable, aside from being unwise in terms of hostile media coverage.

But there will be legal counsel out there who will fancy the high-profile high-fee case, winnable or not, so there is no doubt that if the Evans family wish to proceed, they will be able to find representation to take the case to court for them.

[naomi24]

Divebuddy, //I think we can be sure that they at least know they are doing.//

I think so too.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //Divebuddy, //I think we can be sure that they at least know they are doing.//

I think so too. //

I would not argue that they know what they are doing - but that does not mean that what they are doing is wise, or going to end well.

[nannybooby]

Imo they won't sue ,just in case more new eveidence appears and puts him in a bad light. He is innocent of rape by law but by jingo he is a liecentious predator and should hang his head in shame.

[andy-hughes]

nannybooby - //Imo they won't sue ,just in case more new eveidence appears and puts him in a bad light. He is innocent of rape by law but by jingo he is a liecentious predator and should hang his head in shame. //

My view is that any case would be confined to the issue at hand - was what Gloria Hunniford said slanderous in law. In my view it is not, but we'll see, and I agree, I don't think they will sue.

No argument with the remainder of your post - my reason why they should let this horrible incident leave the public consciousness as soon as possible.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, // I would not argue that they know what they are doing //

Jolly good.

[Prudie]

Thought this had finished but have to add a bit of irony-
"I think the Evans family will decide whether or not to sue" and yet we have been repeatedly told it was the police who decided to bring the charge in the first place without the woman's involvement..

[naomi24]

Prudie, that relates to Gloria Hunniford's subsequent comments on Loose Women - and the rest of the women there who agreed with her.

[andy-hughes]

Prudie - //Thought this had finished but have to add a bit of irony-
"I think the Evans family will decide whether or not to sue" and yet we have been repeatedly told it was the police who decided to bring the charge in the first place without the woman's involvement.. //

Rape is a criminal offence - the police bring the charges.

Slander is (usually) a civil offence, the family can bring a charge if they wish, the police will not be involved.

[grumpy01]

Ched Evans Not Guilty end of.Let's move on please.

[andy-hughes]

grumpy01 - //Ched Evans Not Guilty end of.Let's move on please. //

That is true, but this subsequent piece of news is relevant to the thread, given that it is about what the debate has been about, so it merits discussion.