Corbyn

[gulliver1]

Brexit , If Mr Corbyn and his MPs, along with the Tory remainers, and other parties, Snp, etc voted against Brexit, would it be enough to scupper Brexit ?.

[Jackdaw33]

No. The entire Tory party will vote for Brexit. They dare not do anything else.

[mikey4444]

Jack....not all the Tory MPs are in thrall to Mrs May, as the events of this week has shown, by her losing her 3rd MP this current session.

I expect that BREXIT will happen, nevertheless. But perhaps the nation will get a better deal out of us leaving, than before the recent Court ruling.

Parliament is sovereign on this issue after all, a fact that the High Court has now made perfectly clear to our new PM....something she should have known without being told.

[dannyk13]

I can see an election on the horizon to increase the Tory majority.

[bhg481]

The government needs permission from parliament to go for Brexit. A simple motion for debate "This house believes that the will of the people, as declared in the June referendum, should be heeded and that Article 50 should be activated". Surely NO MP could vote against that.

[mikey4444]

Danny....its certainly possible, but very difficult to arrange, due to the Fixed Term Parliament Act.

I am coming around to the view that when a new PM emerges, after an Election, in the manner of Brown and May, an Election should be called anyway.

After all, nobody voted for a Tory regime, with Mrs May in Number Ten.

[mikey4444]

bhg....there may be lots of MP's that would vote against that motion.

Parliament, in both houses, were very much against leaving the EU, in the run-up to the Ref........why should they change their minds now ? I would have a lot more respect for a politician if they stayed constant, rather then faff about and change their minds when it might be expedient to do so.

Some constituents and regions voted to stay, in large numbers.

[cassa333]

Oh does that better deal mean paying as much into the EU as we do now just To stay in the single market, still have to allow free movement AND means we get no say in anything while still abiding by laws/rules and regulations that are made in Brussels?

If we are to have no say then I would suggest paying to be in the single market and all it entails is not worth it. Once for me at least, again it has a lot to do with lazy businessmen wanting the easy status quo rather than the effort of building their businesses.

Corbyn is just on the band wagon. He is saying the opposite of the government because he thinks big business will vote for him. All the crap about Bretix means Bretix is just so much "we will stop it" because what is he and the rest of the remainers going to do when they can't get the single market? What are they going to do when even they see it isn't worth the paper it's written on?

That's right they will vote against a50 and will continue to do so because there will always be something they will say is a red line.

They will then hold up their hands and say "see we do want a50 but we can't vote for it as WE the minority haven't got what we want. The government is crap at negotiating so why don't we just forget about it all?"

[mikey4444]

Cassa....Corbyn is saying what his Party believes.....would you be happier if he told lies, just to please you ?

[naomi24]

bhg481, //"This house believes that the will of the people, as declared in the June referendum, should be heeded and that Article 50 should be activated". Surely NO MP could vote against that. //

Don't hold your breath.

[ToraToraTora]

Turkeys do not vote for christmas. Brexit cannot be stopped.

[gulliver1]

You reckon!

[gulliver1]

They said the Titanic could never sink!.

[jim360]

Presumably for it to be a representative vote, 48% of MPs should vote against it. (But no more than that.)

[ToraToraTora]

I know you are hurting, I know you want your marbles back but this was for keeps and you cannot subvert the will of the people. Are you prepared to wriggle out of this because of your own views? Are you really that arrogant that your view is superior to that of the majority? These are just tactics to delay the inevitable. Brexit will happen one way or another by force if necessary, do not underestimate the will of the people on this.

[gulliver1]

Mean- while back in London ,Mother Theresa is flying off to India, eh thought her priority was sorting Brexit.

[mikey4444]

TTT...I have no idea who your last outburst is directed at. We are entitled to have different views than you.

To repeat....I would give greater respect to an MP who kept to his or hers stated views, rather than simply change them to suit a the mood of the moment.

The Tory MP who resigned his eat this week was true to his word, and I hope other MPs would be the same....Voltaire and all that.

[naomi24]

Gulliver, you must have missed some of the news.

[mushroom25]

// The Tory MP who resigned his eat this week was true to his word //

no, the tory mp who resigned his seat this week launched teddy on a one way trajectory from the pushchair and flounced, because he was passed over for the attorney general's job. is such childish behavior really worthy of respect?

[mikey4444]

Not so Mush.....he resigned because he disagreed fundamentally with Mrs May, on 2 important issues........ On child refugees, on the use of aid money, and on the handling of Brexit.

[naomi24]

As I said elsewhere, Tory MPs are like buses - another will be along shortly - so all this moral mental gesticulating is just pie in the sky.