Care Home Nurse: 'morphine Will Shut Her Up'

[mikey4444]

Yet again, secret filming by the BBC has to be employed to flush these people out. The Beeb comes in for a lot of criticism on AB but what would we do without it ? Who else would have found this woman out ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/38019808

[EDDIE51]

That's a very large bottle of Morphine the nurse is using! You could knock off a few patients with that !

[Jackdaw33]

I have to confess that after a few spells in hospital I wished that the nurses had been a little more handy with the morphine with respect to the noisy, disruptive patients.

[Peter Pedant]

not secret of course
one party knew it was being filmed

I thought everyone knew the chemical cosh didnt work
( xc on Michael Jackson but it gives you some idea of the overdose imvolved )

as for finding people out
every coroners case gets a tox screen in Manchester
( but they have an interest in preventing another shipman )

[Peter Pedant]

doesnt work Jacko

or in my case ( morphine reaction ) I was noisy and disruptive because I WAS on ( prescribed morphine ) and even said at one time - these hallucinations will stop if you take me off morphine

[RATTER15]

I have witnessed many such things myself, and when I report them to the respective authorities I get sacked within days of the inspection, but of course, never for whistle blowing, that would be too obvious.

Until whistle blowers get more protection these things will continue!!

[mikey4444]

Ratter....you have my every sympathy !

But what are the QCC doing while all this is going on ?

Its been a long time since Winterbourne View ( another successful BBC exposure ) but we seem to have learned nothing. Its bloody appalling.

[Jackdaw33]

Unless you've been in a care home you don't know what it's like. I was a patient in one for ten weeks last year, at the end of which I was ready to murder a certain old lady.

[Peter Pedant]

// I get sacked within days of the inspection, but of course, never for whistle blowing, that would be too obvious. //

have you ever taken advice on this ratter ?
I thought whistle blowing was a protected activity ( = you could sue in the employment tribunal even tho you had not done two years )

[mikey4444]

Jack....I have every sympathy with you as well but this isn't an excuse for care home staff too behave like this.

[RATTER15]

The problem with CQC or CSSIW here in Wales is, no matter what you report, CQC and CSSIW can only act on what is seen at the time of inspection unless you have witnesses, and witnesses are not in abundance. Most staff keep quiet as they dont want to lose their job or be branded a whistle blower (as I have been) and many will be loyal to their Manager or employer and deny everything. very difficult to get a job with that reputation, especially when your last employer wont give you a reference. This is why so few are prepared to speak out.

[mikey4444]

Ratter....it is as I suspected then Ratter.

If that is the case, the CQC or CSSIW is unfit for purpose. If this sort of thing goes on, when the BBC is filming, then it must be the tip of an iceberg.

Whoever oversees the above watchdogs needs to pull its finger out and start actually doing something.

[RATTER15]

PP, "I thought whistle blowing was a protected activity" Yes it is, however they never sack you for whistle blowing and they dont have to tell you why they sacked you within a two year period of working for the company. Its an easy get out. I have sought legal advice and told I don't have a leg to stand on.

[murraymints]

I did vol work in a large psychiatric hospital with locked wards and inmates (for that is what they were treated like) that had been there for years..the staff were in the majority, sadly, abusive mentally and physically..neglectful, disrespectful..thieving....I could go on and on....I reported back my impressions and what I had witnessed to the top..and it was soon suggested that my vol work was no longer needed..so I agree with Rater..shameful !!

[ducksie]

I don't understand the legal jargon for the implications of what happened and what I seen on BBC news this morning, I just know I felt sick and so sad for the people who live in these care homes, in a month when you honour what a generation before us did for our countries to make them what they are, people like this woman in nurses uniform are abusing the elderly and not listening to them when they need to be in hospital, getting proper treatment. I'm sure it's only the tip of the iceberg

[hereIam]

Jackdaw - why were you 'ready to murder a certain old lady' ??

[-SharonA-]

Probably eating yorkies!!! Eh jackdaw???

[pixie374]

The nurse has a stinking attitude, although quite honestly, many "private" comments in homes, hospitals, funeral parlours and probably offices- would look terrible in isolation and in print.
If it's any consolation... no medication canbe given unless prescribed or agreed by a GP. And morphine is a CD... it needs two staff to administer and sign for and the amount measured and recorded before and after every administration and signed by two staff. Itcan't "disappear" in an overdose or to other patients. I'm glad she is suspended, but it looks bad on the vast majority of places that treat people properly.

[hereIam]

I don't think it's funny. Poor old lady was young once, probably had a nice life, hubby and kids and now she is stuck in a care home and hated by some people ! God forbid any of us should end up like this.

[pixie374]

//Poor old lady was young once, probably had a nice life, hubby and kids //. That's irrelevant. She is still a person now!

[hereIam]

I know she is and I am on her side !!