If A Christian Couple Can Be Fined For Refusing To Sell Something They Believe Is Against Their Religion Then Why No Action Against This Person?

[youngmafbog]

OK, so IMHO religion is the root of most evil but lets forget that bit because what I am trying to understand is why there seems to be one rule for one and another for a certain other religion we all have to bend ovcer backwards to accommodate?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4070144/Muslim-Tesco-cashier-refuses-sell-bottle-wine-shopper-against-religion.html

[Baldric]

From the red link at the bottom of The Mail article

///The cashier said it was against her "religious beliefs" to serve the £4 bottle of wine///

[Mamyalynne]

Wonder how many more bottles he's bought during this thread's duration.

[fiction-factory]

So that's not a direct quote from the girl then although presumably the words 'religious beliefs' were part of what she said .

[mikey4444]

Bloody hell...is this still going on ?

[Zacs-Master]

I'm really surprised at all these intelligent ABers who are making assumptions.

Baldric - find me one article where it says she said this to customer.

Ff - your presumption is just that....a presumption.

I'm amazed that a tabloid article's spin has deceived so many people.

[Togo]

//A tyre depot manager, Mr Saunders decided to put in a complaint to the store, and Tesco confirmed the shop worker, who was aged in her early twenties, had not served him, due to her religious beliefs.//

From the Express.^^

//A Tesco spokesman said  "She is aware that you shouldn’t have to queue again in the future if a similar situation occurs.
“She will request another colleague to come and serve.”//

From The Sun.^^

//Lee Saunders, 35, refused sale of a £4 bottle of wine by Muslim worker at Tesco
She would not serve him due to 'religious beliefs' and asked him to queue again//

YouTube^^

//when he attempted to pay for the £55  in goods, the female customer service assistant, who wore a headscarf, asked him to queue up at a different till. The incident prompted a duty manager to step in and serve dad-of-three Lee.Tesco later said the shop worker, aged in her early 20s, had not served him due to her “religious beliefs”.//

hwz forums^^

Even Tesco are admitting that she fused to serve him on religious grounds. And still no one offers a view on why she did not discreetly call for supervision or assistance. If it was not my offered reason, ie. she wanted to make a religious point to an infidel, then what was it? Tesco staff seem to have previous with this sort of event do they not.

[fiction-factory]

>Ff - your presumption is just that....a presumption.

Zacs- my presumpion was based on the fact the Mail put the words 'religious beliefs ', but not the rest, in quotation marks. Of course it may have been 'inverted commas' or the Mail may have just made it up

[andy-hughes]

Togo - OK, she made a point about her faith.

Let's skin her alive, and all her family, and everyone in her street, and then dance on her bones singing Hallelujah!

Would that make you happy?

Talk about a dog with a bone!!!!

[fiction-factory]

Maybe she didn't refuse to serve him togo but just declined to do so. Maybe she hadn't had the required training staff are given about how to verify the age of shoppers.Although her religious beliefs were an issue here I have not seen any transcript that shows she gave that as the only reason to the customer.
Why don't people just accept we don't know the full details

[Zacs-Master]

If anyone can find proof that she actually used any words to the customer which regarding her religion, I'll gladly accept it.

Suggesting (which I think the tabloids are doing to make her and the situation look worse) that she said such a thing paints her in a poorer light and incites exactly the sort of reactions we've seen on here, which are unfactual and unnecessary.

[Zacs-Master]

Regarded.

[Togo]

Well the shopper said so for one.....then Tesco confirmed that to be the case...errrr yep she refused to serve the bottle of wine because "it was against her religion". It takes a long time sometimes.

[hereIam]

It does indeed Togo !

[Zacs-Master]

There is NO confirmation that she said those words or any other about her religion to the customer. Your taking the statement that she said she couldn't sell alcohol, as having been said to him. As I said, if you can find ONE article which states she said this to the chap who bought the wine then I'll accept it.

[andy-hughes]

Togo - //Well the shopper said so for one.....then Tesco confirmed that to be the case...errrr yep she refused to serve the bottle of wine because "it was against her religion". It takes a long time sometimes.//

Where exactly do you want this discussion to go from here?

You have got your wish - those who are interested accept that the lady refused to serve the customer because of her religious beliefs.

So, armed with that agreement, where you do want to go now?

[Zacs-Master]

Togo hasn't got any wish. The fact that he's put the words he's desperately searching for in speech marks doesn't make it a fact that they were said to the shopper. I'm pretty sure they're the words she used when her employment commenced, but I have no proof.

[Togo]

//Where exactly do you want this discussion to go from here? //

Nowhere, I want it to stay right there. Where it should have stayed all along, without the usual excuse makers feeling they had to deflect the truth or twist the fact. As long as people are prepare turn a blind eye or a deaf ear to such behaviour it will carry on, and indeed increase.

[fiction-factory]

Yes, and maybe we will get two or three rather than one case every few years

[fiction-factory]

if Tesco has 100 people in a store why would it matter to anyone if only 99 serve alcohol so long as customer service measures are in place to cope