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This rally has obviously arisen due to fears of a retrograde swing in rights hard won when Donald Trump takes the reins.
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/// The impression given was that you had experience of the discrimination black folk go through whereas in fact you were asserting your already established rights. Those that had fought to sit on a bus had been handcuffed, had been arrested and had been thrown in gaol. ///

Complete twaddle.

How many more times have we to go down this path?

The secret lies in your usage of the words "The impression given was that".

I cannot in any way be held responsible for any impressions that you say I have given, those impressions are merely formed in your own confused mind.
Is Trump advocating that black people have to stand up for white people on busses or something?

Anyone got a link?
That's basically where we kicked off mamya but with AOG's usual spin and waffle combined with the reluctance to answer simple questions, we've somehow ended up at this juncture.
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Mamyalynne

That word "SPECULATION" comes to the forefront once again.
Does it?

Ok thank you.
AOG, there's no speculation regarding your refusal to answer the simple question; do you believe black people have equal status with white people in the US?
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Zacs-Master

Yes blame AOG once again I suggest you look back into this thread and see the usual suspects (you being no1)who have constantly twisted my words and introduced lies, so as to try and divert this thread away from the original subject.
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AOG, I haven't twisted anything. I see you've avoided the question yet again. Are you afraid to answer?

Dive buddy, a vast oversimplification of the situation.
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Zacs-Master

/// AOG, there's no speculation regarding your refusal to answer the simple question; do you believe black people have equal status with white people in the US? ///

Why should I be forced to answer any question put before me.

But if that is all that is worrying you, I will answer it.

"I don't know", satisfied?

Now answer me this "Has a black person the same right to become President as a white person"?
AOG

This is what happened.

You posted this:

/// So speaks a man who has never had to fight for the right to sit where he wanted to on a bus, or drink from a water fountain, or rent a
house. ///

You are wrong, I have done all three.

When you wrote "I've done all three, you unwittingly referred to the driving verb which was 'fought for'.

Perhaps you meant that you have previously drank from a water fountain, rode on a bus and rented a house.

But that makes little sense in the context of this discussion.

Do you see why some people took it to mean that you'd faced the same sort of discrimination that black Americans have due to segregation?
AOG

You asked:

So why were they protesting?

I explained that in my first post.

I didn't tell you why those who were killed by police officers joined the march, because I don't know.

I apologise for this.
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Zacs-Master

/// I see you've avoided the question yet again. Are you afraid to answer? ///

Look you asked me two questions in succession and I answered them in succession, don't be so impatient.
divebuddy

Look at my link.

The stats are from the FBI.
I think you're being disingenuous AOG. I'll ask you a related question. Do you think black people would protest if they thought they were equal?

Obama is of mixed race so it's not completely correct to say he's the first black president.
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divebuddy

Again - I think we need to establish protocols when looking a crime stats. It makes little sense to look at figures based on race, and race alone. The only people who do this do so because if you take into account poverty, education, unemployment and housing - it gets rather more complicated.

Tell you what - if you think about a state such as Utah which is overwhelmingly white - do the crime stats suggest that offenders are from predominantly economically disadvantaged backgrounds?

If so, is it not reasonable to extrapolate that and conclude that poverty, lack of decent education etc is a governing driver behind the propensity to commit crimes?

If you're going to look at one statistic, why is it race?

Why not look at the number of ex-services personnel who are incarcerated (both in the US and UK)? Did you realise that their numbers too, are way out of proportion with the general population?

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