Well Here's Some Good New Anyway....

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38721681

[grumpy01]

This all goes to show that David Cameron and co never gave a thought to the possibility of an out vote.It is now left to Theresa May and her government to sort out.Although I have been critical about Jeremy Corbyn, to his credit he has said the Labour party will not try to de-rail Brexit.This is a somewhat different stance than that one being taken by that irritating little god botherer Tim Farron and his predecessor two faced Clegg.

[jno]

as the judges are known to be enemies of the people, it would be only right for Sturgeon to call a referendum on this. Power to the Scottish people!

[ToraToraTora]

well she can do what she likes, it won't effect what the UK parliament does.

[jno]

ooh, technical rules!

[Old_Geezer]

IMO Sturgeon just seems hell bent on making herself sound dafter as time goes on. Every time she doesn't get what she wants she calls for yet another independence referendum to be inflicted on the Scottish folk. How can any reasonable individual take her seriously ?

[ToraToraTora]

to be fair she is in the SNP leader so she is obligated to pursue independence. The problem is though she isn't after independence she just wants to be ruled by the EU instead.

[New Judge]

It’s just as well.

I don’t realistically know how the conflict between Scotland and the rest of the UK would have been resolved had the judges determined anything else. This is particularly so since Mrs May has (thankfully) put paid to any idea that the UK will pursue a “half-Brexit” (or any other percentage) and that no special arrangements will be negotiated for Scotland to have a different form of relationship with what remains of the EU. This would have been absurd as there are enough problems already resulting from the ridiculous devolution arrangements facilitated by the Blair government and no more are particularly to be welcomed.

It seems that if Ms Sturgeon’s party cannot hold sway in the Westminster Parliament the Scots will have to put up with whatever is negotiated for the UK as a whole. With a bit of luck this will prompt her to call for a second referendum on Scottish independence. The trouble is, I cannot see it succeeding.

[mushroom25]

Ms Sturgeon can call a second referendum, the result would almost certainly be independence. but unless the referendum carries sanction from the UK government, there can be no easy disaggregation, the 2 nations are too entangled for a simple split. Just as an example, the railway infrastructure in Scotland is owned by Network Rail, ie the UK government, there being no Network Rail (Scotland) ltd. even though the Scottish government will (shortly) have the individual right to tender train service franchises, if Scotland declared UDI the railway infrastructure would still belong to the UK government.

[hereIam]

The more I read about this woman, the more I can't stand her ...

[whiskeryron]

whims & vagaries of the EU

[Hopkirk]

Nicola Sturgeon is touring Perthshire in the First Minister’s chauffeur driven car.
Suddenly a cow jumps out into the road, they hit it full on and the car comes to a stop.
Nicola in her usual jaunty manner, says to the chauffeur : " You get out and check - you were driving."
The chauffeur gets out, checks and reports that the animal is dead.
" You were driving, go and tell the farmer," says Nicola, ”I can’t afford to be blamed for anything.”
The chauffeur walks up the drive to the farmhouse and returns five hours later totally plastered, his hair ruffled and with a big grin on his face.
" My God, what happened to you ?" asks Nicola.
The chauffeur replies : " When I got there, the farmer opened his best bottle of malt whisky, the wife gave me a slap - up meal and the daughter made love to me."
" What on earth did you say?" asks Nicola.


" I knocked on the door and when it was answered, I said to them, I'm Nicola Sturgeon’s chauffeur and I've just killed the cow."

[gulliver1]

What a nice Lady, I hope she likes Burns night , tomorrow,
If Theresa May had her way, Brexit would not be the dish of the day.

[mikey4444]

TTT....you need to make your mind up !

When this issue was taken to Court last year, you argued that it wasn't democratic. And yet now that the same Court has made its decision about Wales, Scotland and NI, you think it a very good idea !

You seem to take a very cavalier attitude to legal matters, as could be seen by your refusal to agree with the Hillsborough verdicts.

[david small]

Nice one Hopkirk.

[murraymints]

oh Nicola dear ..do shut up !

[Old_Geezer]

Hardly the same thing Mikey. The courts have said that the parliament at Westminster must confirm the decision they already made when they agreed to have a referendum, instead of letting government get on with it; so that was simply a tactic to delay and to allow parliament to change tack and ignore the will of the people they are supposed to represent. With regards to lower tier councils, they have simply pointed out, as an aside, the obvious facr that UK wide issues are not something they have a say in, the Westminster parliament is the body that deals with that.

[Old_Geezer]

FACT
Like I typed

[Khandro]

The Scots, as we all know, are a canny folk, and would never fall for the nightmare scenario of having no say in Westminster, and being dominated by a failing Brussels. Notwithstanding the fact that their application to join the EU as a separate state, would be vetoed by Spain, for one.

[mikey4444]

Og ...I can't see the difference as far as TTT goes, for the reasons I gave. He is not happy about one decision, but happy about the other, given by the same Court.