Grammar Schools 'may Ask Parents For Hundreds Of Pounds A Year'

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-38739744

So it would seem that having a gifted child is not enough.....parents of Grammar School kids will need to be wealthy as well.

From the above link :::::

"A majority of grammars will be left worse off by proposed funding changes, according to analysis by the Grammar School Heads' Association"

[Jackdaw33]

25% of Welsh MPs are Tories.

[pixie374]

Mikey, the link says "may" and only gives what happens already.

[ToraToraTora]

.....all the parants agree with that mikey? right oh!

[rockyracoon]

I bet schools in Wales ask for voluntary contributions.

[ToraToraTora]

I've never understood why the left hate grammar schools, on paper they should love them.

[mikey4444]

TTT.....If a majority of just 51.89% was enough to take us out of Europe, then why is a much larger Labour percentage not OK in Wales ?

The Welsh Government is Labour led, and always has been.

[Jackdaw33]

Labour's dichotomy from the 60s:

"If it's the last thing I do, I'm going to destroy every ***g grammar school in England. And Wales and Northern Ireland."

Anthony Crosland

"Grammar schools will be abolished over my dead body"

Harold Wilson.

[Orderlimit]

Does any reasonable thinking person take the Labour part seriously anymore?

[Orderlimit]

*party

[ToraToraTora]

"TTT.....If a majority of just 51.89% was enough to take us out of Europe, then why is a much larger Labour percentage not OK in Wales " - where have I mentioned the political configuration of Wales?

[Islay]

Are there many grammar schools left in England, in Northern Ireland a large majority of the schools are grammar schools!

[mikey4444]

Islay....they do things very differently in NI, in many ways. For instance, almost all schools are segregated.

[Islay]

We are not talking about segreration though are we! we were talking about grammar schools.

[mikey4444]

Islay...yes you are correct....Grammar Schools and education cuts.

[Boto]

Mikey @ 18.46 - 'no Tories and no grammar schools. That's the way we like it.'
No, that's the way SOME like it. You don't speak for all of Wales.

[ToraToraTora]

^^^ oh dear mikey, trouble in paradise?

[New Judge]

"So it would seem that having a gifted child is not enough.....parents of Grammar School kids will need to be wealthy as well."

But Mikey, I got the impression (I think from a question some time ago which mentioned grammar schools) that you believed the parents of all grammar school pupils were privileged and wealthy. If that’s so, surely they won’t miss a few bob.

"If it's the last thing I do, I'm going to destroy every ***g grammar school in England. And Wales and Northern Ireland."

Yes I remember Mr Crosland. I was attending a grammar school at the time of his declaration. He, of course, had attended Highgate School in London, then one of the country’s leading independent schools. No “bog standard” comprehensive for Mr Crosland. However, he did manage to persuade his two step daughters (from his second marriage) to abandon their elite education to attend Holland Park Comprehensive.

[Jackdaw33]

If I remember correctly Holland Park was not exactly 'bog standard'. It was a showpiece with pupils carefully chosen.

[Oldred]

Mikey //Mamy...if you read the link, you will see that this is a new departure, forced on Grammar Schools by cuts in funding.//

If you go to the last line of the article you will see that these are proposals out for discussion:-

//A consultation on the proposed new funding formula is to run until March.//

I recall the statement by Justine Greening on the subject in the HOC and subsequent questions on the subject of school funding.

Apparently, there are such inequalities in the current system of funds allocation to the extent that is possible for two virtually identical schools in the same area to receive different funding purely as a result of the formula being used.

The current exercise try and find a fairer system.

You can read about it more fully here:-

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06702/SN06702.pdf

Obviously, schools that may loose out under an early draft will be the first to shout but as everything is at the consultation stage I think it's a bit premature to start shouting 'cuts' particularly as in your 'question' you correctly quote 'changes in funding'

[Togo]

Don't see many parents or grandparents here on the "bank" protesting about helping there kids get an education. One notable poster, without children though, taking umbrage on behalf of those who do. Perhaps the feeling amongst the socialist faction is really not education, education, education. But subjugation, subjugation, subjugation.