Sad Indictment Of Generations Of Liberal "elite" Thinking?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/38907591/body-cameras-on-trial-in-english-schools
so now Teachers will have police style cameras in the classroom. Who'd be a teacher these days after the limp dums have filled every classroom full of disruptive little cretins?

[ummmm]

Still doesn't make our kids 'cretins' though, Andy.

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// that's a fact...not ageism! ///

It isn't when you associate it with Grumpiness.

Your feeble excuse that it is fact, well if it comes to that, lots of things are facts, but if one mentions them, the likes of you are soon quick to play your feminist, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, cards, so why shouldn't I use the ageist card?

[Mamyalynne]

Be nice once in a while to stay on topic.

[Mamyalynne]

I detest he use of the phrase 'the likes of you' glad my children and grandchildren weren't taught it.

[ChillDoubt]

Whatever happened to the good old fashioned board duster hurtling towards a miscreant at a rate of knots for restoring class discipline eh?

[ummmm]

Oh dear...AOG, why do you add those terms to people who disagree with you or point out blatant flaws in your argument?

[Mamyalynne]

Chill, it would be very rare to find a teacher using chalk these days.

If you still want one for old times sake the board dusters are still available.

[andy-hughes]

ummmm - //Still doesn't make our kids 'cretins' though, Andy. //

Indeed it doesn't - but that's not my view, which is probably the main reason why I didn't say it.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //ummmm

/// that's a fact...not ageism! ///

It isn't when you associate it with Grumpiness.

Your feeble excuse that it is fact, well if it comes to that, lots of things are facts, but if one mentions them, the likes of you are soon quick to play your feminist, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, cards, so why shouldn't I use the ageist card? //

Why don't you stop picking fights and stick to the point of the debate?

[naomi24]

Parents must take some responsibility at least for their children’s behaviour, but when they don’t know how to behave themselves, what hope for the children?

http://news.sky.com/story/parents-banned-from-talking-to-teachers-at-glasgow-school-after-verbal-abuse-of-staff-10759426

[Mamyalynne]

Agreed and thankfully most do , which is why sweeping generalisations don't work as a premise for a thread.

If one says as the OP did that every classroom is full of disruptive cretins then they mean their own and everyone else's children too.

I still think the ability to flick a camera on if needed is a good one.

[naomi24]

Mamyalynne, the problem is no one seems to think their own child is creating problems, but the culprits must be someone's children.

[ummmm]

Again..a sweeping statement, Naomi, I always took the teachers side without question.

[hc4361]

No borstals in AOGs day, either

[naomi24]

Ummmm, not with you. What's a sweeping statement?

[Mamyalynne]

I know parents who have had dreadful trouble with their children and sought help from the school rather than disagreed with them.

Both my daughters were at one point sent home due to the dreadfully disruptive behaviour of dying their hair and on one occasion wearing the wrong shade of blue blouse.

I didn't argue rather just rectified the issues as quickly as possible.

My Grandson had awful trouble settling in class due to his autism which most teachers interpreted as misbehaviour but was actually sheer terror on his part - he is now a top flight scholar but sadly got attacked by another boy last week as he is so gentle.

Only the bruises told us what occurred , he kept quiet as (in his words) the other boy has enough problems at home.

School are on the case.


I don't live in a pink bubble, I know bad things happen - but they are not the norm and not every child in every class room.

[ummmm]

No one seems to accept it's their own child. Plenty of people do.

[Islay]

People may take your posts more seriously if you managed to post without the insults littered in each and everyone!

[anotheoldgit]

hc4361

/// No borstals in AOGs day,
either ///

Oh yes there was, perhaps they should bring them back?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2902340/Is-time-bring-BORSTAL-Tough-discipline-education-military-role-models-better-job-prison-claims-star-TV-trial.html

[ummmm]

But earlier in the thread you insinuated children were better behaved because they learnt respect.