Religion No Excuse For Gay Discrimination

[Zacs-Master]

In a similar case to Cakegate, a court in the US has ruled that discrimination against gays on religious grounds isn't lawful:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/us/florist-discrimination-gay-couple-washington-court.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

[Bazile]

Crikey - one goes away for a bit and return to a thread about - muslims /blacks .
How did a thread about flowers and a gay couple , morphed into one about Muslims and blacks ?

[youngmafbog]

The thread is about Religion and gays so can see where the Muslim bit came from as it is direct from the OP.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// I'm not sure that it makes them either appalled or in any significant numbers. ///

I think that 'appalled' is a little dramatic, but regarding numbers here is one situation where out of 12 gays at a dinner party only one was in favour of marriage.

*** He thinks there are more gay people in agreement with him than people may think - at a dinner party he hosted for 11 gay friends, only one was in favour of marriage, one was undecided and the rest were against, he says ***

[jackthehat]

If we are going to start extrapolating statistics on any given topic according to 12 people at a dinner party......it's all going to get a bit silly very quickly.

[youngmafbog]

Can't see the problem it's what polls do every day :-)

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit
/// We went from wedding flowers to Muslims in just seven posts. Now there's a benchmark to try and beat. ///

It has been beaten we went from wedding flowers to Christians in only three posts, that being mikey's post.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat
Yes when confronted with facts some do tend to get rather lost for words, hence the need for such expressions as:

"it's all going to get a bit silly very quickly".

[ummmm]

What facts?

[jackthehat]

AOG - If I had asked 12 people at 'my' dinner party whether they were in favour of gay marriage and told you that 11 out of the 12 were in favour, what would you determine from that statistic?

And would you accept it as being definitive proof?

[andy-hughes]

In spite of those who regularly rock up on this section to remind us all ad nauseum that not everyone (especially them, God forbid we should imagine otherwise!) is in favour of gay marriage -

let's not forget that this case didn't arise because the lady in question didn't approve of gay marriage, it arose because she used that disapproval to indulge in discrimination, and that is not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of law - and breaking it.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //*** He thinks there are more gay people in agreement with him than people may think - at a dinner party he hosted for 11 gay friends, only one was in favour of marriage, one was undecided and the rest were against, he says *** //

Interesting that this 'statistic' comes about because someone is at pains to lobby only his gay friends.

Some of us just have friends - being gay is not a club you have to join - even though you like to speak about it as though it is.

[mikey4444]

Bazile....in answer to your question of 14:42, it morphed in to one about Muslims because Talbot made it so, at 08:53 this morning.

[andy-hughes]

Jack - //And would you accept it as being definitive proof? //

Good job your typing skills didn't let you down on that phrase!!

LOL!

[-Talbot-]

ikey4444 Bazile....in answer to your question of 14:42, it morphed in to one about Muslims because Talbot made it so, at 08:53 this morning.



Drivel.
You could have carried on with anything you wanted to say.
I didn't stop or disagree with anyone slating bigoted Christians did I?


So tell me ... who are the actual bigots on this thread?

[tamborine]

One deluded florist cannot speak for millions of christians or muslims.

Choose another florist out of millions of traders.

[-Talbot-]

douglas9401
We'll see. :)

09:28 Fri 17th Feb 2017


Give that man a prize.

[andy-hughes]

tambourine - //Choose another florist out of millions of traders. //

This is not about poor service, or tittering behind hands, or snotty looks, or slamming tills, it's about discrimination, and it's against the law ... one more time ... it's against the law.

[SnookerPlayer]

We all know the law can be stupid.

[andy-hughes]

SnookerPlayer - //We all know the law can be stupid. //

Indeed it can - but that doesn't mean you can break it because your religion gets in the way.

[SnookerPlayer]

How about moral grounds as opposed to religious grounds.