So Why Shouldnt Heterosexual Couples Be Allow A Civil Partnership?

[youngmafbog]

Hardly fair is it?

http://news.sky.com/story/heterosexual-couple-lose-civil-partnership-court-of-appeal-battle-10776197

[Old_Geezer]

No, it is discrimination. But that's ok towards some groups.

[bednobs]

what's the difference between a civil marriage and civil partnership? except the word marriage/partnership

[ludwig]

Clearly unfair, but the ruling is based on law. The law needs changing.

[jackthehat]

CP was seen as a 'halfway-house' between gay couples simply living together and being able to formally register their relationship.
Now that we can marry, fewer couples are taking up the CP option; so it either needs scrapping, or the law needs changing to accommodate straight couples, too.

Whichever option is ultimately chosen, it's not actually 'our' fault!

[jim360]

Actually the ruling said that it wasn't OK, but that it was for Parliament to change the legislation and hurry up about it please. Which seems reasonable in a sense -- the judiciary is accepting that this is an issue for parliamentary procedure.

Ironic, then, that you are complaining about an outcome that originates from judges this time accepting the limits of their role...

[sp1814]

bednobs

The difference is financial and legal.

If you marry your partner, you are edible for all their pension contributions upon their death.

If you enter a civil partnership, you are only eligible (upon their death) for contributions since the introduction of CPs, which I believe was 2005.

Also, CPs are not recognised in many countries as a legal partnership, so (for instance) if your partner was critically ill - the civil partner would not be recognised as next-of-kin.

Finally, there are many gay people who would rather enter a marriage than a civil partnership because they don't want to have to come out everytime they complete legal documents and contracts etc.

But in answer to the OP. I think that heterosexual couples should be allowed CPs, but I wonder whether they know what the drawbacks are.

[anotheoldgit]

One could ask what is the difference between a marriage and a Civil Partnership?

But there are some who demanded that there was, and so got their way.

[sp1814]

Edible???

Eligible!

[sp1814]

AOG

See my previous answer.

After the Marriage Equality Act, the sensible option would have been to retire CPs completely.

[Mamyalynne]

Of course they should be allowed a Civil Partnership.

[jno]

they should be. Write to your MP.

[naomi24]

Any couple should be allowed a Civil Partnership.

[bednobs]

i wonder why this couple wants one if it is legally inferior to a civil marriage? i wonder if they are just trying to prove a point

[sp1814]

bednobs

To be honest, that's what I think is going on.

[jackthehat]

They said they objected to the 'patriarchal baggage' implied in traditional marriage but want the rights and securities provided by a CP.

[jackthehat]

......or they could just be proving a point. :o)

[mushroom25]

maybe SP - but it's something that Peter Tatchell has wanted to see since at least 2009....
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/06/26/peter-tatchell-david-cameron-has-betrayed-equality-by-denying-straight-couples-civil-partnerships/

[naomi24]

As Ludwig says, the law needs to be changed to allow ‘couples’, siblings, or just friends who have chosen to share their homes and their lives the benefits of pensions, etc.

[anotheoldgit]

bednobs
/// i wonder why this couple wants one if it is legally inferior to a civil marriage? i wonder if they are just trying to prove a point ///

Perhaps they are trying to prove a point, after all it worked for the gay couple who wanted to bed down in a guest house, not to mention the cake episode.

But as usual, and which has been proven in this case, some don't have the benefit of a level playing field, but then we already knew that, didn't we?

[Islay]

Yes they should be allowed to partake in the lesser effective civil partnership if they so wish.
The law should be changed.