Doctors And Nursing Training

[emmie]

seeing as how much it costs to train doctors, shouldn't they be
required to work in the NHS for a set period of time, or does that already
happen.

[emmie]

because the private sector is more lucrative, no?

[Sqad]

emmie....yes, the Private Sector IS more lucrative......what you don't do, you don't get paid for.BUT it is competitive.
Unlike the NHS, where there is no element of competition and one can live a nice quiet life with good pay and in your last 5-10 years, one can "freewheel to retirement"with a good pension.
Yes.....the money IS in private practice but with it goes imitative, hard work and competition.

[emmie]

i understand...

[Peter Pedant]

// Throwing money at the doctors whenever they want a pay rise is not the answer as clearly something is wrong//

says squad who had a very nice financial settlement when he worked for the NHS thank you.

here is another old doctor saying the young doctors shouldnt strike
http://www.hospitaldr.co.uk/blogs/dr-blogs/one-deans-backlash-against-bma-pension-ballot

without mentioning ( naughty boy ! ) he was getting twice the normal whack for a doctor as he was a Very Important Doctor ( highest merit award ) and was on target for twice the pension

[Peter Pedant]

// emmie....yes, the Private Sector IS more lucrative......what you don't do, you don't get paid for.BUT it is competitive. //

as opposed to the NHS where what you Do do - you dont get paid enough for

clearly I have differing views to sqad on a doctors worth

[woofgang]

Sqad, I wasn’t suggesting that only the army should do it, I was suggesting that the NHS should do it

[Sqad]

P.P

"as opposed to the NHS where what you Do do - you dont get paid enough for "

That may or may not be true, but that ISN'T my point which is...if you spend 3 hours in the operating theatre one gets the same salary as someone who spends one hour in the theatre, or one who doesn't even turn up////how is that right?
Someone who spends 4 hours in out patient gets the same pay as someone who spends 2 hours.....is that right?
In one unit a Consultant has 3 registrars and never comes in for emergencies compared to a single handed Consultant with no registrars who is constantly on call.....both have the same salary.
Is that fair?
Whereas in Private practice you have to generate your own income by WORKING and competition.....not so in the NHS.

[Sqad]

woofgang......yes, I did get that, but my point was that the army had been doing it for ages and it was not successful.

[woofgang]

but that may be because not many doctors want to join the army rather than not many doctors would take up a contracted bursary offered by the NHS. There is also the question of nurses?

[campbellking]

In the next academic year, nursing students will be required to pay course fees. Be interesting to see how this affects numbers.