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All Muslims are obviously not the same and think the same but it is rather stupid to facilitate the growth in Islam in this country.
There will always be radicals trying to convert the moderates (that according Erdogan shouldn't exist) and there will always be moderates who will listen to radicals preaching hate.
There will always be radicals trying to convert the moderates (that according Erdogan shouldn't exist) and there will always be moderates who will listen to radicals preaching hate.
Naomi - //andy-hughes, challenge all you like, but I take it that what you've just written on another thread applies only to you then.
//I fail to see why, when others express their own views, in their own way, they are accepted, but I am vilified //
Not the same at all.
I have not insulted you, merely queried the way in which your opinion appears to read as a statement of fact.
I have never accused you of being arrogant or ignorant simply for saying what you think - that is the difference.
//I fail to see why, when others express their own views, in their own way, they are accepted, but I am vilified //
Not the same at all.
I have not insulted you, merely queried the way in which your opinion appears to read as a statement of fact.
I have never accused you of being arrogant or ignorant simply for saying what you think - that is the difference.
andy-hughes, you have a very short and highly selective memory – but I’m not getting into this nonsense with you again. It’s repetitive and tedious.
Garaman, I’m not sure there is a solution, but making efforts to placate Islam is not an option simply because it isn’t productive and achieves nothing. Regardless of what we do Islam isn’t going to change its mindset or its purpose. Both are enshrined in the tenets of the religion, and those tenets are to Islam immutable and beyond criticism. If you look at polls conducted by reputable organisations, quite worrying numbers of what we like to call ‘moderate Muslims’ sympathise with the extremists in one way or another – and that doesn’t apply solely to this country or to the rest of Europe – it applies worldwide. I’ve posted this several times before, but you may have missed it.
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Incidentally, people from other cultures alien to that of the west don’t seem to cause us too much of a problem, so with that in mind have you ever asked yourself ‘why only Islam?’ There has to be an answer to that somewhere ….. don’t you think?
Garaman, I’m not sure there is a solution, but making efforts to placate Islam is not an option simply because it isn’t productive and achieves nothing. Regardless of what we do Islam isn’t going to change its mindset or its purpose. Both are enshrined in the tenets of the religion, and those tenets are to Islam immutable and beyond criticism. If you look at polls conducted by reputable organisations, quite worrying numbers of what we like to call ‘moderate Muslims’ sympathise with the extremists in one way or another – and that doesn’t apply solely to this country or to the rest of Europe – it applies worldwide. I’ve posted this several times before, but you may have missed it.
http://
Incidentally, people from other cultures alien to that of the west don’t seem to cause us too much of a problem, so with that in mind have you ever asked yourself ‘why only Islam?’ There has to be an answer to that somewhere ….. don’t you think?
I don't disagree with anything you have just written, Naomi. I am not a defender of Islam; I think it is evil, My question though is about how we reduce the risk of terrorism. The proposals put forward by some, such as banning the movement of Muslims in Europe, would in my view just serve to increase the risk.
Garaman, According to the dictionary definition, a ‘hardliner’ is someone who pursues an uncompromising policy. You’re applying the term to the wrong party.
“What might reduce the risk of Islamic terrorism?”
Our security services are reducing the risk, and we could abolish faith schools, monitor mosques, and remove Imams from prisons – that would prevent radicalisation to a great degree - but nothing will ever stop Islam pursuing its objective.
“What might reduce the risk of Islamic terrorism?”
Our security services are reducing the risk, and we could abolish faith schools, monitor mosques, and remove Imams from prisons – that would prevent radicalisation to a great degree - but nothing will ever stop Islam pursuing its objective.
OK, Naomi, in that case I apologise for the 'hardliner' bit. I confess I did have you down as someone who followed a hard line against Islam. In fact your proposals are not at all as extreme as I imagined, though of course it is always difficult to say whether such actions would reduce the threat or anger enough people so as to increase it.
