Trump Walks...but What Did He Say?

[sp1814]

How do you read this one?

Did he:

A) Decide he wanted to walk away from the reporters' questions?
B) Suddenly realised he needed to be somewhere else?
C) Forget why he was in the room in the first place?

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/31/politics/donald-trump-executive-order-signing-walk-out/

From the expression on his face as Pence tries to stop him, I'm thinking it's A, but I can't be sure.

Can anyone work out what he said (lip-reading)?

[naomi24]

pastafreak, indeed. Among others there's a very famous example - that of Michael Howard avoiding Jeremy Paxman's question to him - and then, of course, there's Jeremy Corbyn avoiding Brexit questions. If you google you'll find lots of references to both. Take your pick.

[sp1814]

So the general consensus is that he didn't want to answer any further questions, so left without the things he was supposed to sign.

Logic dictates that if this were the reason, he would've picked up his executive order, motioned to his VP and assistants, thanked the press and say, "We now have things to get on with".

As it is, he blind-sided every, and just stalked off.

I'm beginning to love Trump.

He's like a great big cartoon character.

[sp1814]

naomi24

Your examples don't fit, because with Michael Howard and Jeremy Corbyn, there was no walking out.

The nearest comparison we have is John Nott during the Falklands conflict.

And we all remember how that turned out for him.

Not well.

[mikey4444]

sp...thanks for reminding me....I had forgotten about Nott !

[naomi24]

sp, I was asked for examples of politicians avoiding questions - not of politicians walking out. I answered the question.

[pastafreak]

Maybe I should have been more specific...but then again,the question IS about Trump walking out.

[naomi24]

pastafreak, but your question wasn't about Trump walking out. It was about politicians evading questions.

[jim360]

Even supposing this defence of Trump is (partly) accurate, it still fails because the whole point of his campaign was that he is *not* a normal politician. If he behaves just as badly as the rest of them, then what was the point of electing someone who was also inexperienced, an outside, and grossly incompetent? Not to mention blatantly using the office to advance his family's business interests.

Still, tune in next week for another exciting chapter in "Naomi defends the indefensible by casually dodging the actual criticism or other inventive evasion tactics!"

[naomi24]

Jim, I'm not defending the indefensible... and I've no idea what you think I've dodged.

[jim360]

Of course you aren't, and of course you don't. I suspect that's why you like Trump.

Sadly there's not much evidence that anyone who supported Trump has quite "got it" yet. Maybe they never will. Anyone who's been had, conned so deeply as his supporters have been, will struggle to admit the truth to themselves.

There was an interesting piece in the New York Times this morning, for example, that highlighted how deeply Trump's proposed budget cuts threatened the very people who supported him (and, not incidentally, might allow him to afford tax cuts for the well-off). Here's the thing, though -- some of those realised this obvious truth, and were shocked, surprised and disheartened that the budget cuts were on the table, and *still* believed and trusted in Trump. Littered with examples like these:

"Why is building a wall more important than educating people?” asked Billy Hinkle, a Trump voter who is enrolled in a program called Tulsa WorkAdvance..."

"Another Trump supporter in the program, Tarzan Vince, put it this way: 'If he’s preaching jobs, why take away jobs?'"

" Rhonda McCracken ... who voted for Trump ... is aghast that one of Trump’s first proposals is to cut federal funds that sustain the organization [that helped her and her son escape domestic abuse ]."

As Trump himself once said, he could probably gun someone down in the street and lose no support. He really is indefensible -- but I'm sure you won't stop trying anyway.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/01/opinion/sunday/in-trump-country-shock-at-trump-budget-cuts-but-still-loyalty.html?_r=0

[naomi24]

Jim, this question, like many others here on the subject of Trump, comes across, to me at least, as spiteful in the extreme. It’s nonsense designed only to generate yet more hatred – and just like a bunch of schoolyard bullies, you, SP, Mikey, and others take every opportunity to stick the boot in. No stone is left unturned in your quest. Trump is far from perfect and nor is he ideal, but as I’ve said before, I will defend anyone I think is on the receiving end of unjustified criticism. For example, although in the current climate I’m very pleased the State of Israel exists, a few days ago I spoke against the injustice the Palestinians suffered with the foundation of Israel. That brought a few raised eyebrows too, but I absolutely abhor the spitefulness of witch hunts – and that is exactly what this is. Now you might not understand where I’m coming from – and having read your increasingly bitter posts on this subject I wouldn’t expect you to because you're clearly obsessed with damning the man - but quite frankly I’d rather be me than you.

[Garaman]

Naomi, are you suggesting that someone shouldn't comment on the president walking out of a signing ceremony as that would be spiteful?

[Bazile]

Why is a song and dance have to be made about these siginings anyway and on
camera ?
Just sign the things in private.

[Samjenko]

Jim was outraged by Sir Tim Hunt. You'd think he'd have learnt his lesson about jumping on bandwagons.
So the NY Times found 3 people in the USA who've (allegedly) changed their minds about Trump. Well, that's all the evidence I need. ;-)

[sp1814]

nomi24

Spiteful?

Really?

Do you know what Trump said about the Central Park Five?

When he's not talking about grabbing women by their vagina, he's slurring the names of innocent people.

He deserves everything he gets.

He's a politician. He's fair game.

He's said some really quite unpleasant things about many different people.

He...is...fair...game.

Spiteful...psh.

[vetuste_ennemi]

I can understand why today's educated class hates Trump. It is impossible for it not to. What I can't understand is that same class's total unconcern about the "achievements" of his predecessor, the miseries they have already wrought in the Middle East and North Africa, and the future dangers they have created. Speaking of the latter I mean, of course, giving (in effect) nukes to the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Iran is the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism, ahead, even, of Saudi and Qatar. There will be an orthodox rationale for a policy which the simple-minded like me might think insanely evil. I look forward to Jim's presenting it.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Oh, by the way, as it's a common tactic on this site to avoid addressing an argument by questioning its source, isn't the New York Times a Carlos Slim organ?

[david small]

He may have followed through......

[Samjenko]

'He...is...fair...game.

Spiteful...psh.'

https://twitter.com/Communism_Kills/status/848325438925676546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftdillingham.com%2F2017%2F04%2Fwatch-82-year-old-man-crash-anti-ivanka-trump-protest.html

[naomi24]

Garaman, //are you suggesting that someone shouldn't comment on the president walking out of a signing ceremony as that would be spiteful?//

I didn’t say that and the OP is not a ‘comment on the president walking out of a signing ceremony’. It’s a deliberate attempt to encourage ridicule.

SP, //Spiteful? Really?//

Yes, really.