Now, Surely, We Should Move On The Internment Of People On The Watch List.

[scooping]

We have human rights too, particularly the right to life.

[EDDIE51]

naomi at 18.00, You make my point perfectly! No they are NOT 'undercover spies' working for the security services. They are Imams who the 'activists' assume are religious leaders who do not report them!
They think they are safe in their Mosques speaking only in Arabic in front of those who hold similar views. In truth they are increasingly being clandestinely reported by the very people whom they regard as their leaders! An Imam who was suspected of reporting members of his congregation to security would be in danger of assassination! Again there is a parallel to Northern Ireland where this actually happened to priests and others who were suspected of revealing information to the security service! Remember 'Kneecapping' and 'Tar and feathering'? these were the punishments handed out as a first warning, the next action was a bullet in the back of the head!

[EDDIE51]

Not sure how old you are naomi, but do you actually remember what was happening back in 1971? I was 21 and remember it like it was yesterday! There was real fear then, even hearing an Irish accent was a cause for concern!

[naomi24]

Eddie, oh the drama of it all! You do get carried away, you really do. Has anyone been kneecapped at the Manchester mosque for grassing on the perpetrator of that atrocity? I don’t think so. And stop comparing what’s happening now to the Irish situation. The only comparison relevant between the two is that people are being slaughtered.

Now could you answer my question and tell me where all this sympathy you fear so much is going to come from once all the potential terrorists have been imprisoned?

[gness]

No, Eddie.....I was 21 in 1971 and living in the UK.......my family never caused fear with our accents...x

[tonyav]

No comparison with the Irish troubles imo.

Internment is needed.

[fiction-factory]

>The Manchester bomber Salman Abedi was reported by his local mosque for his extremism, but the warning was ignored.

Yes, that was reported but I understand that the claims haven't been substantiated. GMP have said they found no record of any warnings and Trafford College also said there were no flags on their records regarding this 'student'

[fiction-factory]

^ That was in response to Gromit's earlier post on this thread

[scooping]

Thanks for the internment link. Going to open a backbone shop for those worried about upsetting people. Action this day!

[mikey4444]

FF ( 19:20)....to echo the words of Mandy Rice Davies....well, they would, wouldn't they.

[tonyav]

Yes thanks from me to for the link, 230,093 votes now.

[EDDIE51]

Back in 1971 I was working with a colleague whose name was Maguire.
The same surname as a notorious Irish terrorist. We had to go to Birmingham on a business trip, he tried to book our hotel in his name but was refused. I tried the same Hotel using my name a few minutes later and was offered a choice of rooms immediately. He and I both thought his 'Irish' name was to blame for his failure to get a room! He was not Irish but just had a name that had 'connotations' at the time.

[THECORBYLOON]

If innocents are interned merely because they happened to attend the same mosque as a terrorist, do you not think that might cause some backlash from other Muslims?

Do you really think that a terrorist is going to discuss his or her plans with all and sundry at the mosque?

On another thread, NAOMI said "there is no suggestion of throwing out the fundamental principles we are governed by" yet she advocates banning Muslim immigrants and closing mosques. So much for one fundemental principle, the one that says innocent until proven guilty.

[1rovert]

ALL persons caught at these killing events, and with these killers, should have a bullet inserted into the back of their head.
END OF

[EDDIE51]

naomi, I can only repeat that in 1971 there was a 'backlash' from internment. The main problems were an increase in sympathy for 'the cause' along with a sharp increase in violence. I think there are very strong similarities between the situation in 'The Troubles' of 1970s and the situation now. The sympathy will come not from UK citizens such as you and I but from 'terrorist sympathisers' who will feel that it gives them vindication / justification for their action.
Jeremy Corbyn holds the same view on this and on UK military intervention in foreign regimes.

[-Talbot-]

@ Gromit.

''Despite wide reports that Abedi was reported by Didsbury Mosque, the mosque confirmed to Panorama that he was not.''

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40079948

[EDDIE51]

I can not and will not support imprisonment without trial for someone just suspected of 'terrorist sympathies' , that is just not the way a civilised country works!

[-Talbot-]

Some people want it both ways.
They say...


You can't just lock people up because they have been reported.


And then say ...

Why wasn't this man stopped ... he was reported?

[tonyav]

that is just not the way a civilised country works!


Were not dealing with civilised people though.

[gness]

Thank you, Talbot......read that carefully, Eddie.....and you can see very clearly the truth....if you care to......x

[DTCwordfan]

forget internment, take the 500 cases, revoke their UK citizenship or immigrant rights as they clearly don't want to be here and deport them to Syria/Libya/Pakistan wherever...inc Saudi.

I would personally leave the back door of the 707 open but that wouldn't be politically acceptable - but then Spooks did it.

However, back to basics, it would send a hell of a message about our country's want and intent to act against such despotic acts - not a bastion of Christianity but a bastion of decency for all religions, even including the sensible and God-fearing Muslim.