Koran Burning

[nailit]

Cant find an online link but just watching Midlands Today news.
Its reporting that a man has been arrested on suspicion of hate crime after posting a vid to Facebook of himself burning a copy of the Koran.
But why don't we hear of muslims getting arrested for burning copies of The Satanic Verses, or burning poppies or burning UK flags?
Arnt these hate crimes too?

Ive had many muslim aquantences over the years and havnt got a bad word to say about any of them, but this one sided policing isn't doing anything to help race relations.

[Lie-in King]

Was this it, nailit? -

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1556049.html

[nailit]

No, this is a different one lie in king.

[nailit]

Must be an epidemic....

[EDDIE51]

The 'Satanic Verses' are not part of the Quran , they claim they were dictated by the devil ( Satan) not by Allah That is why they burn them.
A flag,Uk or any other , or a poppy are also not 'sacred religious texts'. So burning them is not 'blasphemy'.
I don't agree with flag or poppy burning nalit, just pointing out why it is not a hate crime.

[Lie-in King]

Apologies.

[nailit]

But it *IS* hate EDDIE.
Hate against free speech and democracy and the UK

[ummmm]

I agree...it is hate.

[Buenchico]

I have no objection whatsoever to people burning copies of the Q'ran. (Indeed, during the Bible-burning parties I used to help organise, I've tossed a good many copies of the Q'ran and other religious texts into the flames as well).

However, to answer the actual question here, "causing offence" isn't a crime, whereas "inciting racial hatred" (which is what the police say they're investigating) is.

[EDDIE51]

This brings me to a point I have made previously.
I have never had a satisfactory explaination from a Muslim as to why if Satan was once able to fool Mohammed into thinking he was Allah and dictate the 'Satanic Verses' what garantee is there that it only happened that one time?
(As we know the basis for the Quran being sacred is that it was personally dictated to Mohammed by Allah himself!)

[vulcan42]

It would appear that in the UK you can insult the country by burning the flag, insult the dead and wounded by burning poppies but insult an airy fairy unproven religion and you get arrested. Why are we not capable of being consistent ?

[EDDIE51]

Nalit, yes I agree 100% it is hate, but it does not fit the official definition of 'hate crime' as it does not involve burning a 'sacred text'!

[nailit]

At times, I get a bit crazy and do off the cuff things (especially after a bottle of vodka) Ive really got it in my head to do what Buenchico has mentioned and burn a few copies of the Bible and a few copies of the Koran (might throw in a few copies of Das Kapital as well, just for fun)
and post it on Fakebook. Would be interested to see exactly who would report me and see what the prosecution in court would have to say....

[Peter Pedant]

quran burning is covered by s4 of the public order act 1986 innit ?

( conduct likely to cause alarm or distress)

[douglas9401]

God does not will it, Vulcan. :-/

[Peter Pedant]

// However, to answer the actual question here, "causing offence" isn't a crime, //

I think you are looking at the wrong act Chris
alarm and distress is covered by the Public Order Act
and
the charging standard just happens to be here

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/public_order_offences/

[ I only have half hearted interest in this pressing AB q of
why is Quran burning a criminal offence and burning of my fave teddy bear isnt but burning the sweet little puppy next door - live puppy that is - is!) - and other tear jerkers that soft hearted ABers like Vulcan spend their time thinking up]

[nailit]

Seriously PP, what effing planet are you on??
Are you incapable of speaking the queens English?

[EDDIE51]

^ Agree with you there Nalit,I constantly struggle to comprehend PP's comments!
Another well known AB members use (or misuse) of 'Cockney slang' is almost as bad!

[-Talbot-]

Shouldn't someone have a word with the police for racial stereotyping?

[vulcan42]

PP if you knew me you would know I'm not soft hearted but I do have great respect for the this country and the men and women who have defended it, both living and dead.

[nailit]

EDDIE, I read load of threads that PP has participated on and scroll right pass them. Pity really because I suspect that PP is a really educated bloke who might have much to add to a discussion but comes across on here as a dimwit with very much convoluted responses as to be unintelligible on here