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Project Fear...part 94
Anybody remember this warning from the Good Doctor Cable:
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“This week Wimbledon is being launched and the people who normally produce the strawberries can’t produce them because the labour force has disappeared because of anxiety about their future status in Britain,” he told Sky News’s Sophy Ridge on Sunday programme.”
Anybody had any trouble getting their strawbs this year? Me neither. In fact in my local Tescos late this afternoon they were flogging them off at half price.
So…anybody recall the Good Doctor, since his anointment as leader of the LibDems, apologising during one of his many public airings, for putting the fear of God into the hapless electorate (half of whom he seems to despise for voting to leave the EU)? Once again, me neither. Just when will these bitter Remainers realise that the more they spout this errant nonsense, the further their credibility (already at a low) sinks?
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“This week Wimbledon is being launched and the people who normally produce the strawberries can’t produce them because the labour force has disappeared because of anxiety about their future status in Britain,” he told Sky News’s Sophy Ridge on Sunday programme.”
Anybody had any trouble getting their strawbs this year? Me neither. In fact in my local Tescos late this afternoon they were flogging them off at half price.
So…anybody recall the Good Doctor, since his anointment as leader of the LibDems, apologising during one of his many public airings, for putting the fear of God into the hapless electorate (half of whom he seems to despise for voting to leave the EU)? Once again, me neither. Just when will these bitter Remainers realise that the more they spout this errant nonsense, the further their credibility (already at a low) sinks?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.David Cameron said if we voted to leave it might lead to war.
It is unthinkable that as a member of the European union than we would go to war against another member State.
Within the last century, we have engaged in two bloody wars with our European neighbours – no doubt those with more knowledge of our history can quote the number of wars over the last millennia (with at least one lasting more than a century).
It is unthinkable that as a member of the European union than we would go to war against another member State.
Within the last century, we have engaged in two bloody wars with our European neighbours – no doubt those with more knowledge of our history can quote the number of wars over the last millennia (with at least one lasting more than a century).
See these wiki links for proof of the peace loving Brits.
During the last millennia, there has not been a single century when we have not been at war with at least one of our European neighbours.
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During the last millennia, there has not been a single century when we have not been at war with at least one of our European neighbours.
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No they don’t – in the former, I state that we would not go to war against another EU member State, and point out that we have had two wars in the last century with European neighbours (while not in the EU, which did not exist).
And the latter, pointing out the many, many wars we have fought against European nations over the last millennia – again the EU did not exist during this period.
And the latter, pointing out the many, many wars we have fought against European nations over the last millennia – again the EU did not exist during this period.
Your second post shows that we are only too willing to go to war. We are about to leave the EU, so your point about not waring with another EU member will soon be obsolete, which is the whole crux of this post.
There were various pacts / alliances / treaties in place at the start of the first and second world wars which were supposed to cement us together and prevent wars.
There were various pacts / alliances / treaties in place at the start of the first and second world wars which were supposed to cement us together and prevent wars.
“Within the last century, we have engaged in two bloody wars with our European neighbours”
Yes but it was not the UK alone engaging in those wars and if similar circumstances prevailed today the EU would be the last organisation capable of avoiding another conflict. The war would be over by the time agreement was reached between the 27 members (if they could manage to arrange a meeting to discuss the matter in between their monthly shuttles between Brussels and Strasbourg, that is). The EU is actually exacerbating bad feeling among its members by refusing to deal with either the migration “crisis” or the disparity of economic wellbeing amongst those members using the single currency. Both these problems have been largely - or in the case of the euro, solely – the responsibility of the EU for creating in the first place.
“I just meant that the effects of leaving will not be felt until we have actually left in 2019.”
Quite so, Kromo. But the warnings of Armageddon given by Messrs Cameron and Osborne in Project Fear Part 1 and by Dr Cable in Part 94 were of immediate effects. Apart from a correction in the value of the pound none of these has materialised so if these people and their expert advisers get their predictions so blatantly wrong just a few weeks (or even days in the case of Dr Cable) in advance why should anybody give them any credibility for forecasts of doom two, three or more years hence?
Yes but it was not the UK alone engaging in those wars and if similar circumstances prevailed today the EU would be the last organisation capable of avoiding another conflict. The war would be over by the time agreement was reached between the 27 members (if they could manage to arrange a meeting to discuss the matter in between their monthly shuttles between Brussels and Strasbourg, that is). The EU is actually exacerbating bad feeling among its members by refusing to deal with either the migration “crisis” or the disparity of economic wellbeing amongst those members using the single currency. Both these problems have been largely - or in the case of the euro, solely – the responsibility of the EU for creating in the first place.
“I just meant that the effects of leaving will not be felt until we have actually left in 2019.”
Quite so, Kromo. But the warnings of Armageddon given by Messrs Cameron and Osborne in Project Fear Part 1 and by Dr Cable in Part 94 were of immediate effects. Apart from a correction in the value of the pound none of these has materialised so if these people and their expert advisers get their predictions so blatantly wrong just a few weeks (or even days in the case of Dr Cable) in advance why should anybody give them any credibility for forecasts of doom two, three or more years hence?