Us Notifies Un Of Paris Climate Deal Pullout

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40829987

Trump would appear to be a climate-change denier !

Would any of Trump's dwindling band of groupies, here on AB, like to comment ?

[Khandro]

jim; The chart by "mike" on your first tweet is absolute cobblers and he didn't mention the Chinese.
As I said before, NASA says there was NO warming between'98 and 2008 which doesn't show at all.

[Zacs-Master]

That's selective statistic usage Khandro. The research also went on the state 'it is possible, and indeed likely, to have a period as long as a decade or two of 'cooling' or no warming superimposed on a longer-term warming trend.'

[New Judge]

“So, in short, he may also, like you, completely fail to understand the Science behind Climate Change,…”

I understand the science, Jim. You’ve explained it to me many times. Whether I accept it or not is neither here nor there. I have been told more than once that “the science is done” so we’re stuck with it, however reliable or otherwise the findings may be.

So I’ve moved on and instead of discussing “the science” I prefer to look at the strategies adopted to combat the problem that science has identified. What I have yet to see is any evidence that (say) the UK shutting down its coal-fired power stations and converting others to burn wood instead will have any significant impact on the problem (whether real or perceived). This is particularly pertinent when considering just China. The Chinese, despite the proportion of their electricity generated by coal falling, are still beginning construction of coal-fired power stations at the rate of two each week. China currently has an installed capacity of over 900 Gw of coal fired electricity generation capability. It also has another 200-400 Gw under construction (the precise amount dependent on whose report you read). This compares with the UK’s installed capacity from all sources of just around 55Gw. So my concurrence with President Trump is less to do with the science and more to do with the futility of embarking on extremely expensive schemes which will do little (or more likely nothing) towards curbing global emissions.

Whilst this nonsense persists the UK consumer is being ripped off to pay for entirely unsuitable methods of generating electricity (including burning wood) and the risk to the resilience of the UK’s energy capacity to meet demand increases with every day that passes.

[jim360]

Yes, I think the most notable thing about your NASA link Khandro was how it seemed to contradict every point you were trying to make in citing it.

[Zacs-Master]

He still,stands 4square behind Trump tho, Jim. Sheesh, the logic of trump supporters eh!

[naomi24]

PeterPedant, //normal day on AB then//

You say that practically every day. Let us know when you think it's not a normal day on AB.

[Peter Pedant]

Ah surely will - ma'am - but dont hold your breath !

( sorry normal AB one-liner - often used and not particularly funny the first time)

[mikey4444]

Naomi....I have been out at work all day and this has been a very busy thread since I left early this morning.

You asked this question at 06:58 :::::: "Where did you get that from?....Something out of your own head again? "

Ample evidence has been presented by most people today, that Trump is a climate change denier. In fact, he has gone beyond denying that it happening....he has said, repeatedly, that the whole issue is a hoax.

I rest my case !

[naomi24]

Mikey, I've read the thread.

[mikey4444]

Yes, and I read your comments very early this morning, and you were wrong.

[naomi24]

I wasn't wrong insofar as your link didn't mention his denial of climate change. Lucky for you the cavalry came to your rescue. ;o)

[Zacs-Master]

For 'cavalry' read 'people who understand logic' Mikey.

[naomi24]

That's not what I said, Zacs. Don't put words into my mouth.

[mikey4444]

Its OK Naomi.....I don't need an apology for "Something out of your own head again?"

Yes Zacs....you are correct. Its been obvious that Trump IS a climate change denier, since long before he was elected.....any cursory glance at his childish "twitterings" could have unearthed that.

On a related subject....didn't the former darling of the Tory Party, David Cameron, once famously say ::::

" "too many tweets might make a ***" ?

[Zacs-Master]

You said 'cavalry' inferring that 'we' made some special effort to rescue Mikey. All I did ( I can't speak for the others but the evidence is.....evident) was to point out what a douchbag Trump is.

[naomi24]

Mikey, //I don't need an apology for "Something out of your own head again?" //

Jolly good because in the absence of anything in your link to suggest otherwise you're not likely to get one.

[mikey4444]

Naomi....I don't think any of us need to put words into your mouth, or feet come come to that ! :-)

[naomi24]

I'll take your word for it, Mikey. On the subject of putting your foot in your mouth, you're a past master.

[mikey4444]

Naomi....but subsequent postings have shown that I was right, and you were wrong.

Your mistake was to assume that I was making this up, when in fact, Trump's constant twitterings have shown him up for what he is......a fool, an ignoramus, and a climate denier.

You should be more careful in which side you take. To side with Trump at any time, especially now, might be perceived to be a serious miscalculation.

[naomi24]

Mikey, try to understand what you’re reading. You'll find it helps.