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AOG - //No evidence of that in the responses that I have received??????
Zacs-Master 13.42
mccfluff 13.51
mccfluff 13.52
mccfluff 13,52
Islay 13.54 //
None of those links defend the crimes of the Muslim officers - they merely point out that corruption is not racially or faith-based - a fact which you appear determined not to want to see.
"No ships" indeed.
Zacs-Master 13.42
mccfluff 13.51
mccfluff 13.52
mccfluff 13,52
Islay 13.54 //
None of those links defend the crimes of the Muslim officers - they merely point out that corruption is not racially or faith-based - a fact which you appear determined not to want to see.
"No ships" indeed.
AOG - //Your analogy doesn't work, Harold Shipman didn't murder his victims under the name of the NHS.
Whereas the Jihadists do continue to slaughter under the name of Islam. //
A fair point - conceded.
But the fact remains, Islamists do not represent Islam anymore than the KKK represents Christianity.
History is littered with psychotic individuals and groups who use a faith or a belief system to cloak their murderous activities.
Surely, is it easier to look in the mirror and say "I am going out to murder innocent people because their existence offends my god, and they must die ..." rather than look in the mirror and say "I am going out to murder innocent people because I am a psychotic maniac and I like killing people." which is actually the uncomfortable truth.
Whereas the Jihadists do continue to slaughter under the name of Islam. //
A fair point - conceded.
But the fact remains, Islamists do not represent Islam anymore than the KKK represents Christianity.
History is littered with psychotic individuals and groups who use a faith or a belief system to cloak their murderous activities.
Surely, is it easier to look in the mirror and say "I am going out to murder innocent people because their existence offends my god, and they must die ..." rather than look in the mirror and say "I am going out to murder innocent people because I am a psychotic maniac and I like killing people." which is actually the uncomfortable truth.
how did i defend corrupt officers? i posted links to show how easy it was to find reports of corrupt officers.
I'm not defending anyone who commits a crime, just the assertation that the ONLY people who commit crimes are non-white, immigrants or muslims - if you get all three in one crime, i presume that's the AOG version of a full house?
I'm not defending anyone who commits a crime, just the assertation that the ONLY people who commit crimes are non-white, immigrants or muslims - if you get all three in one crime, i presume that's the AOG version of a full house?
/// To assume that Jihadists represent Islam is like suggesting that Harold Shipman represents the NHS. ///
Your analogy doesn't work, Harold Shipman didn't murder his victims under the name of the NHS.
Whereas the Jihadists do continue to slaughter under the name of Islam.
Love it, game set and match,lol.
AOG - ///// and not allow the seriously small minority to be allowed to appear to be a threat which they clearly are not. ///
You seriously think that?
Perhaps you need to speak to the survivors of their increasing terrorist attacks. //
My point was that the relatively small number of terrorists do not represent a larger threat from Islam as a whole - they simply like killing people, and have a convenient peg to hang their abhorrent behaviour on, to make themselves feel better.
But to they represent a threat from Islam ? No - they are a threat in and of themselves, and need to be seen as such.
You seriously think that?
Perhaps you need to speak to the survivors of their increasing terrorist attacks. //
My point was that the relatively small number of terrorists do not represent a larger threat from Islam as a whole - they simply like killing people, and have a convenient peg to hang their abhorrent behaviour on, to make themselves feel better.
But to they represent a threat from Islam ? No - they are a threat in and of themselves, and need to be seen as such.
sp1814
/// Please tell me what the differences are between the
races. ///
That is an open question sp one of which persons should be careful to answer.
But let me point out the good things, so as not to be trapped into being classed as racist.
Black persons are better at certain sports.
Okay so far.
White people are generally much more tolerant, especially the English.
Oh dear what have I just said? That could mean that Black folk aren't as tolerant.
Back on the naughty step for AOG.
/// Please tell me what the differences are between the
races. ///
That is an open question sp one of which persons should be careful to answer.
But let me point out the good things, so as not to be trapped into being classed as racist.
Black persons are better at certain sports.
Okay so far.
White people are generally much more tolerant, especially the English.
Oh dear what have I just said? That could mean that Black folk aren't as tolerant.
Back on the naughty step for AOG.
andy-hughes
I don't know why you have responded to this, because didn't you earlier confess that you 'have no idea what this means'?
But let me try and explain I put:
/// So what happens? "Oh! we can't have this" so out come the history books, plenty of Googling, just to prove "it's just not them" gov. ///
It was you that stated there was no evidence of that fact, and I merely produced the evidence, that there were indeed some who would rather go to the trouble to search for evidence that there were some bent white indigenous cops, than see (in this case) Muslims up for criticism.
Had my question been "Why are there Muslim bent cops" then I could have expected evidence that it just wasn't Muslim cops, but I didn't, so their exercise in providing evidence was simply to steer away from the fact that these particular bent cops happened to be Muslim.
A time honoured practice when the likes of ethnic majorities come up for criticism.
A fact which you appear determined not to want to see.
I don't know why you have responded to this, because didn't you earlier confess that you 'have no idea what this means'?
But let me try and explain I put:
/// So what happens? "Oh! we can't have this" so out come the history books, plenty of Googling, just to prove "it's just not them" gov. ///
It was you that stated there was no evidence of that fact, and I merely produced the evidence, that there were indeed some who would rather go to the trouble to search for evidence that there were some bent white indigenous cops, than see (in this case) Muslims up for criticism.
Had my question been "Why are there Muslim bent cops" then I could have expected evidence that it just wasn't Muslim cops, but I didn't, so their exercise in providing evidence was simply to steer away from the fact that these particular bent cops happened to be Muslim.
A time honoured practice when the likes of ethnic majorities come up for criticism.
A fact which you appear determined not to want to see.
I don't think andy's argument was badly put...
//Your analogy doesn't work, Harold Shipman didn't murder his victims under the name of the NHS. //
What difference does it make what excuse a psychotic murderer uses? If I committed a murder saying it's in the name of Aog- would that be your fault then somehow?
//Your analogy doesn't work, Harold Shipman didn't murder his victims under the name of the NHS. //
What difference does it make what excuse a psychotic murderer uses? If I committed a murder saying it's in the name of Aog- would that be your fault then somehow?
pixie - // What difference does it make what excuse a psychotic murderer uses? If I committed a murder saying it's in the name of Aog- would that be your fault then somehow? //
My point exactly.
Human nature means that we see the very best in ourselves, as the famous quote illustrates - "All I was trying to do was bring people some happiness ..." offered as defence by racketeer and murderer Al Capone.
Surely "I act in the name of Allah ..." sits in the mind a lot better than "I am an unredeemable psychopath who is a stain on humanity and should be exterminated..." which is the unpalatable truth.
My point exactly.
Human nature means that we see the very best in ourselves, as the famous quote illustrates - "All I was trying to do was bring people some happiness ..." offered as defence by racketeer and murderer Al Capone.
Surely "I act in the name of Allah ..." sits in the mind a lot better than "I am an unredeemable psychopath who is a stain on humanity and should be exterminated..." which is the unpalatable truth.
/// But the fact remains, Islamists do not represent Islam anymore than the KKK represents Christianity. ///
I was under the impression that Islamists do represent Islam, why else are they called Islamists?
/// History is littered with psychotic individuals and groups who use a faith or a belief system to cloak their murderous activities. ///
History maybe, but most have advanced a long way in the course of History.
For your ideals to work we would now have multi terrorist attacks, and mass savage executions being carried out, on certain none believers, gays, adulterous wives etc, all in the name of every religion on earth, but we don't only from those who follow the Islamic faith.
Doesn't that still tell you anything?
I was under the impression that Islamists do represent Islam, why else are they called Islamists?
/// History is littered with psychotic individuals and groups who use a faith or a belief system to cloak their murderous activities. ///
History maybe, but most have advanced a long way in the course of History.
For your ideals to work we would now have multi terrorist attacks, and mass savage executions being carried out, on certain none believers, gays, adulterous wives etc, all in the name of every religion on earth, but we don't only from those who follow the Islamic faith.
Doesn't that still tell you anything?
Well we have come a long way from the report on two West Midland Police Officers convicted of drug offences.
Not Muslim Police Officers, you understand.
Never mind the misery and maybe death, these two officers and the rest of their gang have caused, especially bad because of the position that they held in society.
But instead witness how soon the defenders of Islam jumped on their bandwagon in defence of that peace loving religion, seeing that these two particular officers just happened to be Muslims as well.
Not Muslim Police Officers, you understand.
Never mind the misery and maybe death, these two officers and the rest of their gang have caused, especially bad because of the position that they held in society.
But instead witness how soon the defenders of Islam jumped on their bandwagon in defence of that peace loving religion, seeing that these two particular officers just happened to be Muslims as well.
AOG - //I was under the impression that Islamists do represent Islam, why else are they called Islamists? //
Islam - Islam
noun: Islam
the religion of the Muslims, a monotheistic faith regarded as revealed through Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah.
the Muslim world.
Islamist -
noun
noun: Islamist; plural noun: Islamists
an advocate or supporter of Islamic militancy or fundamentalism.
"radical Islamists"
adjective
adjective: Islamist
relating to, advocating, or supporting Islamic militancy or fundamentalism.
"hardline Islamist groups"
Hope this helps.
Islam - Islam
noun: Islam
the religion of the Muslims, a monotheistic faith regarded as revealed through Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah.
the Muslim world.
Islamist -
noun
noun: Islamist; plural noun: Islamists
an advocate or supporter of Islamic militancy or fundamentalism.
"radical Islamists"
adjective
adjective: Islamist
relating to, advocating, or supporting Islamic militancy or fundamentalism.
"hardline Islamist groups"
Hope this helps.
Naomi - // Islam
ɪsˈlɑːm,ˈɪzlɑːm,ˈɪzlam/
noun
noun: Islam
the religion of the Muslims, a monotheistic faith regarded as revealed through Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah.
the Muslim world.//
You'd have to re-read the thread, paying special attention to AOG's posts, which have firmly steered it in its current direction, despite his disingenuous attempts to pretend otherwise.
ɪsˈlɑːm,ˈɪzlɑːm,ˈɪzlam/
noun
noun: Islam
the religion of the Muslims, a monotheistic faith regarded as revealed through Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah.
the Muslim world.//
You'd have to re-read the thread, paying special attention to AOG's posts, which have firmly steered it in its current direction, despite his disingenuous attempts to pretend otherwise.
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