Further Signs Of The Islamification Of Britain?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41160596
How long before Muhammad gets to number 1?

[jim360]

Both of those points are true, NJ, but I think you are missing mine. I'm not commenting on how such changes will affect the Muslim population directly, only that such a chance (if it occurs) makes it impossible for any extrapolation to make sense beyond, say, 2020. That's all.

[Zacs-Master]

'It is the growth of those already here that is the main problem'

Which is where I was at 22:59 last night.

[Khandro]

As no one seems to have made the journey to the other thread and because this is too important to miss, giving as it does how historically, the EU has got us into this current crisis, I'm posting it again here;

[New Judge]

"...only that such a chance (if it occurs) makes it impossible for any extrapolation to make sense beyond, say, 2020."

Why does it? If (say) non-Muslim immigration from Europe is restricted in a few years' time it will have no bearing on the Muslim population growth here. Restricting European migration may have a small effect on the total number of people here (hence the percentage of Muslims may increase slightly more quickly because fewer non-Muslims are being imported to dilute their effect) but that influence will be minimal and can easily be untangled from the overall figures.

[jim360]

Well, among other things, supposing that immigration did essentially stop then it might make the effective growth rate of the Muslim population even larger, if it held steady. Or it could be that we change immigration from EU countries with a more open (or even more open) policy from the Commonwealth, including Muslim countries like Pakistan. Or maybe, in a stunning volte-face, the UK parliament decides to open its borders to various refugees in unprecedented numbers, from Syria, Libya, etc.

It doesn't matter. The point is that if the way in which the UK population grows changes (and it's largely driven by immigration) then Muslim-specific projections must also be effected, either because relatively speaking the rate is different or because immigration actually does impact the Muslim population in some way. It doesn't matter which; the point is that you can't extrapolate from current data in any meaningful way.

You couldn't anyway, but especially so at the moment because of the prospect of imminent policy changes that will alter the demographics of the country.

[Khandro]

Removing child benefits beyond two children came into force in April, and should hinder those Islamists wishing to breed there way into a British caliphate at the taxpayer's expense.

https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/Benefit_Changes_April_2017

[New Judge]

Thanks for the explanation, Jim. Yes I accept you have a valid point.

"Removing child benefits beyond two children came into force in April, and should hinder those Islamists wishing to breed there way into a British caliphate at the taxpayer's expense."

I doubt that will make any significant difference, Khandro.

[sp1814]

v_e

The maths still don’t work.

http://www.islamophobiawatch.co.uk/times-discovers-non-existent-rise-in-muslim-birthrate/

[jim360]

My apologies for the heinous crime of using "effected" when I clearly meant "affected". Won't happen again.

[sp1814]

jim360

I saw that, but held back from commenting.

That’s growth, that is.

[hereIam]

'Further signs of the Islamification of Britain?' YES !!!

[Khandro]

jim; //My apologies for the heinous crime of using "effected" when I clearly meant "affected". Won't happen again.//

Don't take it to heart so jim, we don't mark people on AB. :0)