Mrs May Live ....well, Nearly.

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-41359581

[mikey4444]

Who want to bet ?....big beads or big chain links ?

[mikey4444]

The Glums have just taken their front row seats !

[mikey4444]

Big chains !

[New Judge]

Is this just a dig at Mrs May because she does not - unlike her Chancellor of the Exchequer - appear like a funeral director?

[jim360]

"The only way for us to respond to this vast array of global challenges is for like-minded nations to come together and defend the values we have worked so hard to create.

Bye then." :/

[youngmafbog]

Well bye to the 27 EU countries and hello to the 167!

[Kromovaracun]

I'm not hearing much of substance in this speech so far.

[jim360]

Not hearing the bold, new, comprehensive vision then?

[mikey4444]

Kromo....happening NOW !

[youngmafbog]

What did you expect from the Maybot krom?

[mikey4444]

YMB...the Leader of the Party that you voted for !

[youngmafbog]

As you well know I do not like her.

And yes I voted for her as the alternative would be tantamount to suicide.

You should also know by now Tories are willing to critise the party and policies rather than carry on blinkered like labour voters.

[jim360]

What's the point of criticising a party you vote for anyway? Where's the accountability?

"OK Theresa, you done messed up now. I'm going to vote for you, but I hope you know I really sighed heavily as I did it."

[mikey4444]

Very little substance to this speech, apart from a desire for a transitional period.

[Jomlett]

2 years...someone else's problem them cos she'll be Long gone.

[youngmafbog]

jim, most people vote for a party not the leader.

And at the present Corbyn is not a viable alternative therefore one must hold ones nose and vote for May.

//What's the point of criticising a party you vote for anyway? Where's the accountability? //

Lost me there me old china.

[mikey4444]

YMB....you have made your bed, so now I guess you will have to lie on it, at least for a few more months.

[jim360]

I suppose I wasn't as clear as I'd like to be in that post, ymb. What I mean is that there's not really any difference between wholeheartedly supporting a party blindly, and holding your nose as you give them your vote -- it shows up the same on a ballot paper, which is all the MP ends up seeing.

And it seems to me to make a mockery of the "take back control" motivation for Brexit if you don't like the people you've given control back to either, but feel obliged to vote for them anyway. What's gained? Maybe the ability to transfer hatred to a slightly lower-down level of authority that is in practice just as unaccountable if you can't really shift them.

I'm still not sure I'm getting my point across clearly. I hope you can see what I'm trying to say.

[New Judge]

" What's gained?"

The choice every few years to chuck them out when you get to the point where you despise one lot more than you do the other. (Most voters in the UK - and probably elsewhere - vote for the option they dislike the least). No such choice is available whilst we are in the EU and no amount of free trade arrangements or anything else for that matter are worth abandoning that for.

[Kromovaracun]

All we heard is that the UK govt is open to a transition period post-2019. Doesn't feel like a major statement to me, although May was notably evasive about how long that period could be (perhaps the UK could end up in permanent transition? :-/ ). Everything else was just "deep and special relationship", "evolving relationship" "shared opportunities" and other vapid soundbites.