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In Western culture these Asian husbands would rightly be convicted of rape.
In Western culture these Asian husbands would rightly be convicted of rape.
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AOG
What I'm trying to ascertain is whether these cases actually suggest that rape and the attitude of these rapists is a primary indicator or Asian culture.
Do you think it is?
If so - does that mean that you think that it's a dominant aspect, insomuch as you could list Asian cultural norms as:
1. Strong family ties
2. Respect for elders
3. Religious conservatism
4. Rape of white girls
5. Educational attainment
6. Business acumen
7. Social conservatism
8. Marital conservatism
What I'm trying to ascertain is whether these cases actually suggest that rape and the attitude of these rapists is a primary indicator or Asian culture.
Do you think it is?
If so - does that mean that you think that it's a dominant aspect, insomuch as you could list Asian cultural norms as:
1. Strong family ties
2. Respect for elders
3. Religious conservatism
4. Rape of white girls
5. Educational attainment
6. Business acumen
7. Social conservatism
8. Marital conservatism
It is not unexpected to want and choose to believe your partner is/was in the right, to feel a duty and desire to support them, in which case any blame is automatically put on the other party.
In a culture where one isn't even supposed to show much of oneself in public, and the media shows more extreme behaviour of individuals here, it is little wonder the idea that those in western society are acting poorly and at fault becomes common; but the real issue is a lack of freedom on the part of the other culture. All cultures have things to learn and try to put right.
The reality isn't how the partner to the convicted perceive it, but that fact's not helping.
A culture has to modernise at it's own pace and make the same mistakes as cultures that changed before them, made. Blaming the victim is something that will go in time.
But one can not expect a host country to tolerate everything the incoming citizens were used to in their original culture. Keeping a flavour of home is fair enough, it can add to the host country's experience in a good way. Broaden understanding, experience, horizons. But those who come need to make a change as individuals, to accept and fit in with where they decide they would prefer to be, and leave their homeland to make a more gradual evolution in its own time.
As for how many successful prosecutions for 'marital rape' there have been. as for every other crime, a case needs to be brought and proven. I'd suspect the number reflects the occasions where that has occurred.
In a culture where one isn't even supposed to show much of oneself in public, and the media shows more extreme behaviour of individuals here, it is little wonder the idea that those in western society are acting poorly and at fault becomes common; but the real issue is a lack of freedom on the part of the other culture. All cultures have things to learn and try to put right.
The reality isn't how the partner to the convicted perceive it, but that fact's not helping.
A culture has to modernise at it's own pace and make the same mistakes as cultures that changed before them, made. Blaming the victim is something that will go in time.
But one can not expect a host country to tolerate everything the incoming citizens were used to in their original culture. Keeping a flavour of home is fair enough, it can add to the host country's experience in a good way. Broaden understanding, experience, horizons. But those who come need to make a change as individuals, to accept and fit in with where they decide they would prefer to be, and leave their homeland to make a more gradual evolution in its own time.
As for how many successful prosecutions for 'marital rape' there have been. as for every other crime, a case needs to be brought and proven. I'd suspect the number reflects the occasions where that has occurred.
AOG
So to clarify...are you referring to Muslims?
If so - does that mean that you think that it's a dominant aspect, insomuch as you could list Muslim cultural norms as:
1. Strong family ties
2. Respect for elders
3. Religious conservatism
4. Rape of white girls
5. Educational attainment
6. Business acumen
7. Social conservatism
8. Marital conservatism
So to clarify...are you referring to Muslims?
If so - does that mean that you think that it's a dominant aspect, insomuch as you could list Muslim cultural norms as:
1. Strong family ties
2. Respect for elders
3. Religious conservatism
4. Rape of white girls
5. Educational attainment
6. Business acumen
7. Social conservatism
8. Marital conservatism
dannyk13
/// AOG, apart from you, who are the some of us? ///
Well according to this YouGov poll 56% of us.
/// A majority of 56 per cent of people now regard Islam as a threat to Western liberal democracy, rising from 32 per cent in 2001 ///
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/// AOG, apart from you, who are the some of us? ///
Well according to this YouGov poll 56% of us.
/// A majority of 56 per cent of people now regard Islam as a threat to Western liberal democracy, rising from 32 per cent in 2001 ///
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Excellent article, perfectly balanced. Well done to the Daily Mail for publishing it.
Not sure what point you are trying to make though AOG
// In Western culture these Asian husbands would rightly be convicted of rape. //
A complaint of rape would have to come from the asian wives, and we all know that won't happen. In western society, Husbands having none consenting sex with their wives would be u likely to reach the courts.
Not sure what point you are trying to make though AOG
// In Western culture these Asian husbands would rightly be convicted of rape. //
A complaint of rape would have to come from the asian wives, and we all know that won't happen. In western society, Husbands having none consenting sex with their wives would be u likely to reach the courts.
Rape in marriage as already said is hard to prove but tbh how many wives of any background come forward unless it is as a means of escape?
I don't suppose there is a 'culture' of rape per sa. although I accept to us it is much the same thing, perhaps to the Asian/Muslim man it is just exerting his authority, dominance and satisfying his base needs that he is unable to control! So culturally it isn't rape it is just what I as a man am allowed to do. That's why they see nothing wrong with it.
Are these men paedophiles? Or just exploiters of women?
I have no idea but are there proportionally more organised Asian/Muslim gangs that abuse white girls than white gangs? are there proportionally more 'lone' Asian/Muslim abusers of vulnerable white girls than white men?
Something I hear often about Asian gangs is that they treat white girls like this because they are easy or dirty etc but their own girls don't get abused on this scale because they are good girls. Maybe that is because they are so over controlled they are not given any freedoms.
I bet you a £ to a penny if the shoe had been on the other foot the whole racist card would have been shouted lounge and long.
I don't suppose there is a 'culture' of rape per sa. although I accept to us it is much the same thing, perhaps to the Asian/Muslim man it is just exerting his authority, dominance and satisfying his base needs that he is unable to control! So culturally it isn't rape it is just what I as a man am allowed to do. That's why they see nothing wrong with it.
Are these men paedophiles? Or just exploiters of women?
I have no idea but are there proportionally more organised Asian/Muslim gangs that abuse white girls than white gangs? are there proportionally more 'lone' Asian/Muslim abusers of vulnerable white girls than white men?
Something I hear often about Asian gangs is that they treat white girls like this because they are easy or dirty etc but their own girls don't get abused on this scale because they are good girls. Maybe that is because they are so over controlled they are not given any freedoms.
I bet you a £ to a penny if the shoe had been on the other foot the whole racist card would have been shouted lounge and long.
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