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Alan Duncan Speaks The Truth Here
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Normally, I have little time for Duncan, but he has hit the nail firmly on the head here.
Normally, I have little time for Duncan, but he has hit the nail firmly on the head here.
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He is 100% correct in that it was lower educated / older people panicking over immigration that led to Brexit. I have said on here several times how I heard old people in the voting station queue saying to each other they were fed up with immigrants and were going to vote Leave. Then the next morning the young single mums in the Muslim run corner shop, all cheering...
07:36 Wed 04th Oct 2017
Danny...I am not implying anything.
You asked me "why do you keep on about it ad infinitum?" I post on a variety of subjects, not all of which I disagree with you on. I am quite happy to debate this subject with you, or anybody else.
It seems to be of interest to lots of other people, so why shouldn't I bring the subject up ?
You asked me "why do you keep on about it ad infinitum?" I post on a variety of subjects, not all of which I disagree with you on. I am quite happy to debate this subject with you, or anybody else.
It seems to be of interest to lots of other people, so why shouldn't I bring the subject up ?
Mikey, I am constantly reminded on here as to how 'anti EU & pro UKIP' AB is in relation to the real world.
Remember when I compared the actual result of the last general election with the prediction made in the AB pre election poll?
If the AB poll had been reflected in the actual vote we would have had 420 Tory MP's and 68 UKIP
If you look at the statistical analysis of the EU referendum voting in the constituencies that voted 'Leave' and those that voted 'Remain' ,
There is a strong correlation showing that areas with lower than average educational level and older than average population were more likely to have voted 'Leave' . The opposite is true of 'Remain'
I will let people do their own Googling ,if I put up the links I will be accused of making it up or exaggerating. But the information is all there to find. If many on here will believe it is another matter.
Remember when I compared the actual result of the last general election with the prediction made in the AB pre election poll?
If the AB poll had been reflected in the actual vote we would have had 420 Tory MP's and 68 UKIP
If you look at the statistical analysis of the EU referendum voting in the constituencies that voted 'Leave' and those that voted 'Remain' ,
There is a strong correlation showing that areas with lower than average educational level and older than average population were more likely to have voted 'Leave' . The opposite is true of 'Remain'
I will let people do their own Googling ,if I put up the links I will be accused of making it up or exaggerating. But the information is all there to find. If many on here will believe it is another matter.
I am a Brexiter. I voted 'Out' for a variety of reasons but Immigration wasn't one of them; neither was I 'misled' by the red-bus NHS lie....
I do get hacked off by the constant insinuations that I must be racist, xenophobic, don't care about the younger generations, am a little Englander, am uneducated, have failed to understand the implications of Brexit....
However, TGT, I must take issue with you 8.56am post. It's not too much of an effort to find your numerous posts deriding the SGB and other witty names you devised for the Remainers....
I do get hacked off by the constant insinuations that I must be racist, xenophobic, don't care about the younger generations, am a little Englander, am uneducated, have failed to understand the implications of Brexit....
However, TGT, I must take issue with you 8.56am post. It's not too much of an effort to find your numerous posts deriding the SGB and other witty names you devised for the Remainers....
OK, 17,410,742 people are "thick old gits" then?
How arrogant cane one be to come up with that statement? One also wonders how many brain cells were employed in thinking it up too!
I know many professionals who voted out including people like my daughter (doctor) and my nephew (Nuclear science). Good to know thick people are employed in those jobs.
Anne, you may not like it but to some the answer to your question will be yes.
And, before you start, I am not in that number.
How arrogant cane one be to come up with that statement? One also wonders how many brain cells were employed in thinking it up too!
I know many professionals who voted out including people like my daughter (doctor) and my nephew (Nuclear science). Good to know thick people are employed in those jobs.
Anne, you may not like it but to some the answer to your question will be yes.
And, before you start, I am not in that number.
A “bit of a tantrum”?
Let’s leave aside Mr Duncan’s alarming lack of manners towards 52% of those who troubled to vote. They are not worthy of comment.
The UK electorate has been showing increasing concern over uncontrolled immigration (which only occurs from the EU) for about twenty years. That concern increased many fold when the doors were flung open to the eastern European nations and a third of a million people per year and more poured in. The opposition to that phenomenon was not based on xenophobia. It was based on the problems that followed by the pressure brought on healthcare, education and housing that such an unsustainable influx of people visited upon the country. Those concerns were brushed aside time and again and, as on here today, those expressing such concerns were denounced as Little Englanders or racists.
There were many reasons why people voted to Leave. Most of them have been thoughtfully listed by 3Ts in his post at 08:46. But immigration was certainly a concern for many – not just the knuckle-dragging loons that it is suggested make up most of the 17m. And so what if it was? People are entitled to be concerned about the effects such numbers have upon their country because it was (and still is) quite clear that politicians (of all colours) are not. I doubt Mr Duncan has to worry about getting a doctor’s appointment, securing hospital treatment when he needs it, gaining a place for his children at a decent school where much of its resources are not spent teaching children English, or finding a place to live. For many people these are the realities of living in a country that allows unlimited numbers of people to arrive and settle here. No other country outside the EU would entertain an agreement that entailed such unlimited freedom of movement. It is the politics of the madhouse. It was quite clear it was never to be addressed whilst we were members of the EU and if people such as Mr Duncan believe it was a “tantrum” against such a policy then they have only themselves to blame. To describe it as such just about sums up the contempt that is shown for people who are trying to make the best decisions for their country’s future. Because politicians certainly are not doing so.
Let’s leave aside Mr Duncan’s alarming lack of manners towards 52% of those who troubled to vote. They are not worthy of comment.
The UK electorate has been showing increasing concern over uncontrolled immigration (which only occurs from the EU) for about twenty years. That concern increased many fold when the doors were flung open to the eastern European nations and a third of a million people per year and more poured in. The opposition to that phenomenon was not based on xenophobia. It was based on the problems that followed by the pressure brought on healthcare, education and housing that such an unsustainable influx of people visited upon the country. Those concerns were brushed aside time and again and, as on here today, those expressing such concerns were denounced as Little Englanders or racists.
There were many reasons why people voted to Leave. Most of them have been thoughtfully listed by 3Ts in his post at 08:46. But immigration was certainly a concern for many – not just the knuckle-dragging loons that it is suggested make up most of the 17m. And so what if it was? People are entitled to be concerned about the effects such numbers have upon their country because it was (and still is) quite clear that politicians (of all colours) are not. I doubt Mr Duncan has to worry about getting a doctor’s appointment, securing hospital treatment when he needs it, gaining a place for his children at a decent school where much of its resources are not spent teaching children English, or finding a place to live. For many people these are the realities of living in a country that allows unlimited numbers of people to arrive and settle here. No other country outside the EU would entertain an agreement that entailed such unlimited freedom of movement. It is the politics of the madhouse. It was quite clear it was never to be addressed whilst we were members of the EU and if people such as Mr Duncan believe it was a “tantrum” against such a policy then they have only themselves to blame. To describe it as such just about sums up the contempt that is shown for people who are trying to make the best decisions for their country’s future. Because politicians certainly are not doing so.
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