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Grant Shapps: Tories Within Rights To Urge May To Go
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Now its all out in the open at last. According to Shapps, an ex-Chair of the Party, she has to go. Surely May's time must now be limited....weeks or days perhaps.
Now its all out in the open at last. According to Shapps, an ex-Chair of the Party, she has to go. Surely May's time must now be limited....weeks or days perhaps.
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Scoopy....it rarely matters what Boris actually says, its only noticed that he is speaking. Look at the various faux pax that he has made, some of them in the last few days.
He is an entertainer, and the Telegraph Gardening Club, that passes for the Tory faithful at Conference lap him up. He could stand on the platform with his trousers around his ankles, as in a Brian Rix farce, and they would cheer even louder !
He is an entertainer, and the Telegraph Gardening Club, that passes for the Tory faithful at Conference lap him up. He could stand on the platform with his trousers around his ankles, as in a Brian Rix farce, and they would cheer even louder !
Serious now for Mrs May.....not critical, but serious...a big deal.
My uneducated guess is that she will be gone by Monday and Philip Hammond will be the leading contender as he should have been after Cameron. I have no idea why he didn't throw his cap into the ring at that time.
Posh, rich, smooth, unruffled, a Tory through and through and looks looks a Prime Minister.
My uneducated guess is that she will be gone by Monday and Philip Hammond will be the leading contender as he should have been after Cameron. I have no idea why he didn't throw his cap into the ring at that time.
Posh, rich, smooth, unruffled, a Tory through and through and looks looks a Prime Minister.
I am not sure I see the point of getting rid of Mrs May just now.
For one thing, who is the obvious successor, and for another, things are tricky enough just now what with the Brexit negotiations: do we really need a change of PM at this crucial time? I think of Theresa May as I thought of her around the time she became Tory leader: dull, uninspiring but a lot better than most of the limited options available.
The Tory Party is in dire need of a serious overhaul, but now probably isn't the time. If she is the one to blame for the Brexit chaos then certainly, but somehow I doubt if she is: they risk putting someone who IS a more likely candidate for that at the helm. If they think having David Davis, for example, as PM would help either the country or the party then they really have lost the plot.
For one thing, who is the obvious successor, and for another, things are tricky enough just now what with the Brexit negotiations: do we really need a change of PM at this crucial time? I think of Theresa May as I thought of her around the time she became Tory leader: dull, uninspiring but a lot better than most of the limited options available.
The Tory Party is in dire need of a serious overhaul, but now probably isn't the time. If she is the one to blame for the Brexit chaos then certainly, but somehow I doubt if she is: they risk putting someone who IS a more likely candidate for that at the helm. If they think having David Davis, for example, as PM would help either the country or the party then they really have lost the plot.
DAvid Davis is a leaver, he will fight for what the country voted for so I dont really understand why you say he wont put country first?
Secondly it is roumoured he is giving up polics after this term so would be an ideal candidate in one way given he would take them past Brexit and then give up the reigns to someone else.
Secondly it is roumoured he is giving up polics after this term so would be an ideal candidate in one way given he would take them past Brexit and then give up the reigns to someone else.
The Tories are so screwed. The only thing that they have going for them is that the other parties are hideously unattractive too.
If they are so self-indulgent as to have yet another leadership election now, after a leadership election and a general election since the Brexit vote, then they deserve nothing but contempt. Get on and run the country and negotiate a proper Brexit, for goodness' sake!
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a frequent Tory voter
If they are so self-indulgent as to have yet another leadership election now, after a leadership election and a general election since the Brexit vote, then they deserve nothing but contempt. Get on and run the country and negotiate a proper Brexit, for goodness' sake!
signed
a frequent Tory voter
May was out of her depth from the very beginning.
I am becoming more certain that my theory that she was set up for the leadership specifically to make a heroic failure at getting us out of the EU becomes more credible by the day.
I don't want her out, the longer she stays the more the Tory party tears itself to pieces.
But if there is a reason for wanting her out it is that she is so bad she becoming an embarrassment as Prime minister of one of the world's most important & influential nations. I feel the rest of the world is looking at us and laughing behind our backs.
People are laughing at the USA for electing Trump and they are laughing at us for having Mrs May.
I am becoming more certain that my theory that she was set up for the leadership specifically to make a heroic failure at getting us out of the EU becomes more credible by the day.
I don't want her out, the longer she stays the more the Tory party tears itself to pieces.
But if there is a reason for wanting her out it is that she is so bad she becoming an embarrassment as Prime minister of one of the world's most important & influential nations. I feel the rest of the world is looking at us and laughing behind our backs.
People are laughing at the USA for electing Trump and they are laughing at us for having Mrs May.
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Theresa May's exit and succession is not going to be determined by what is popular. That is to some degree manipulable.
It will be determined by the balance of power in the Conservative Party - which at the moment she (and indirectly Jeremy Corbyn) are just about preventing from splitting at the seams. Unfortunately that structural instability is also rendering her government incapable of taking a clear direction on Brexit - and we're reaching a point in the negotiations where we can't blag anymore.
Whoever succeeds her will have the same problem on their plate as she does. Going hard one way or the other will in all likelihood cause the Tory party to tear itself apart. Preventing that is a more urgent priority for the Conservative leadership than winning the next election - which is by comparison quite a distant fight.
It will be determined by the balance of power in the Conservative Party - which at the moment she (and indirectly Jeremy Corbyn) are just about preventing from splitting at the seams. Unfortunately that structural instability is also rendering her government incapable of taking a clear direction on Brexit - and we're reaching a point in the negotiations where we can't blag anymore.
Whoever succeeds her will have the same problem on their plate as she does. Going hard one way or the other will in all likelihood cause the Tory party to tear itself apart. Preventing that is a more urgent priority for the Conservative leadership than winning the next election - which is by comparison quite a distant fight.
//Going hard one way or the other will in all likelihood cause the Tory party to tear itself apart.//
I suspect the same will happen in the Labour Party. Brexit really does not belong to one Party and in each Party there are people on both sides who, if they dont get what they want, will cause trouble. JC obviously can't control it as much as TM (although with Barnier and Junker blocking everything how much can she do) but if he is not seen to be capitalising then he will end up with the same problem. Both of them are damned if they do and damned if they dont.
I suspect the same will happen in the Labour Party. Brexit really does not belong to one Party and in each Party there are people on both sides who, if they dont get what they want, will cause trouble. JC obviously can't control it as much as TM (although with Barnier and Junker blocking everything how much can she do) but if he is not seen to be capitalising then he will end up with the same problem. Both of them are damned if they do and damned if they dont.
It's quite possible that Labour will also face the same problem when they are actually in the spotlight. I think they have something the Tories don't, though - which is opposition to austerity, and that seems to be more of a unifying goal which to some extent mitigates the party's Brexit divisions.
Plus Labour has already had its leadership struggles and "civil war" over the past couple of years and ended up with a decisive winner. Corbyn has overwhelmingly won two leadership elections and improved the party's position in a general election - he has now secured an undeniable position of authority within his party. It's hard to see any of the prospective Tory leadership candidates we currently know about come forward who would have the same weight behind them in the party.
Plus Labour has already had its leadership struggles and "civil war" over the past couple of years and ended up with a decisive winner. Corbyn has overwhelmingly won two leadership elections and improved the party's position in a general election - he has now secured an undeniable position of authority within his party. It's hard to see any of the prospective Tory leadership candidates we currently know about come forward who would have the same weight behind them in the party.
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