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So This Idiot Believes That Our Police Would Kill More Black People If They Routinely Carry Guns?
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/// The police may not kill as many black people, but is that only because they do not routinely carry guns?” ///
/// The police may not kill as many black people, but is that only because they do not routinely carry guns?” ///
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I am funny like that too
I believe that if virtually no one carries guns the chance of getting shot goes really right down
and if guns are available then the chance goes up
sudduv like LA
( sound effect blammer blammer blammer blammer ! voice over: in southern drawl: is that the sound of gun fire I hear in them thar ghettoes?))
yeah I know that all the swiss are armed to the teeth
and there arent even injuries from swiss army knives
I dont think you know how few people die violently in the UK AOG (600 /y) and how many in the land of the free ( 22000 )
( population of one is four times the other)
I believe that if virtually no one carries guns the chance of getting shot goes really right down
and if guns are available then the chance goes up
sudduv like LA
( sound effect blammer blammer blammer blammer ! voice over: in southern drawl: is that the sound of gun fire I hear in them thar ghettoes?))
yeah I know that all the swiss are armed to the teeth
and there arent even injuries from swiss army knives
I dont think you know how few people die violently in the UK AOG (600 /y) and how many in the land of the free ( 22000 )
( population of one is four times the other)
He asked a question rather than made a statement.
That one can conclude he seems an idiot is due more to his other statements about the flag, oppression, national DNA etc..
It is interesting though, how the brain can compartmentalise such that one can speak nonsense on one subject yet apparently find an academic subject to shine in at the same time.
That one can conclude he seems an idiot is due more to his other statements about the flag, oppression, national DNA etc..
It is interesting though, how the brain can compartmentalise such that one can speak nonsense on one subject yet apparently find an academic subject to shine in at the same time.
I think you yourself, AOG, have made the point that Black people in the UK have been disproportionately the subject of "Stop and Search" measures. It's a long way from stopping black people more often to gunning them down with impunity -- and anyway there are clear differences in police practice between the US and UK beyond habitual gun use -- but in that context it's not necessarily unreasonable. If police had an extra measure, killing suspects in certain situations, then (a) more people would be shot dead anyway, and (b) it's plausible to suggest that black people would be disproportionately the victims in such cases.
As it happens I don't think that this will be nearly so bad a problem in the UK, as compared with the US. Aside from the relatively non-existent culture surrounding gun ownership here, so that the police would have less reason to suspect that such-and-such a person is carrying a gun and therefore an imminent threat, we also have much more robust and independent investigative measures against police who may have overstepped the line. The IPCC is called in automatically whenever a person dies in an incident related to police action; in the USA an such investigations are often internal, so that it's the friends and colleagues doing the investigating (conflict of interest right there), while any indictments that could be prosecuted end up before a Grand Jury (citizens, who tend to want to trust the Police), as opposed to the CPS (independent body).
Or, in short, we have much better safety nets to monitor the Police than the USA do.
As it happens I don't think that this will be nearly so bad a problem in the UK, as compared with the US. Aside from the relatively non-existent culture surrounding gun ownership here, so that the police would have less reason to suspect that such-and-such a person is carrying a gun and therefore an imminent threat, we also have much more robust and independent investigative measures against police who may have overstepped the line. The IPCC is called in automatically whenever a person dies in an incident related to police action; in the USA an such investigations are often internal, so that it's the friends and colleagues doing the investigating (conflict of interest right there), while any indictments that could be prosecuted end up before a Grand Jury (citizens, who tend to want to trust the Police), as opposed to the CPS (independent body).
Or, in short, we have much better safety nets to monitor the Police than the USA do.
jim, the point is deflection. Criticise anything about Britain and someone will say "Go and live in North Korea".
True Britons always used to seek reform and improvement in their own country, hence all sorts of things from Magna Carta to old age pensions. The traitors who live here today don't even want to think about it...
True Britons always used to seek reform and improvement in their own country, hence all sorts of things from Magna Carta to old age pensions. The traitors who live here today don't even want to think about it...
TTT, looks to me like he has a mighty chip on his shoulder.
What people like this man dont seem to understand is that by spouting a lot of this rubbish they actually create division.
Without doubt we are a moving forward. As a boy staing with grandparents in Brum I still remember the signs 'No dogs No Irish, No blacks' I thin I remember it because it was so alien to me. That no longer happens and the majority of white folk and black folk get along just fine and really dont bother about skin colour. Racking up the Empire every 5 minutes can only serve to create a division, it's almost like some of these people dont want unity. In a way they are as bad as the far right racist groups who seem to want the same.
What people like this man dont seem to understand is that by spouting a lot of this rubbish they actually create division.
Without doubt we are a moving forward. As a boy staing with grandparents in Brum I still remember the signs 'No dogs No Irish, No blacks' I thin I remember it because it was so alien to me. That no longer happens and the majority of white folk and black folk get along just fine and really dont bother about skin colour. Racking up the Empire every 5 minutes can only serve to create a division, it's almost like some of these people dont want unity. In a way they are as bad as the far right racist groups who seem to want the same.
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