How Long Can Trump Hold Out?

[EDDIE51]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41808227
The net is tightening , this is going to be the most damaging yet!

[zebo]

Apparently the charges don't relate to his role in the Trump election campaign, allegedly, but are the thin end of the wedge. I loved listening to the BBC reporter saying that he had been 'indicated'.

[EDDIE51]

George Papadopolous has admitted that he lied to the FBI and had contact with Russian diplomats AFTER he joined the Trump election campaine not BEFORE he joined, as he has tried to say up til now.
It's going to get a lot worse !

[Peter Pedant]

how long can Trump hold out ?
indefinitely according to the (foreign) commentators in the Land of the Free
( all the home grown american commentators seem hopelessly politicised )

what astounds me is how the president feels free to comment on all sorts of things which are nothing to do with him
Bowe Bergdal is a dirty rarten rat fink
and ward about Hillary why havent dey put her in prison?

( a president should not be pronouncing on unjudged cases and directing where investigations should go )

[ummmm]

Did you read it Zebo? It says more than once it was after.

[Peter Pedant]

papadop

yeah it will get worse because he (Papa-dee) has agreed to co operate wid da Fedz - - - oo er Mr Trump !
( thats gonna make him er trump !)

[EDDIE51]

^ Yes it boils down to, he has been given immunity from prosecution in return for dropping Trump in the Do Do!

[naomi24]

Oh the excitement! Mikey will be wetting himself when he reads this. :o)

[ichkeria]

I think the Manafort affair may actually turn out to be the more damaging: Ukrainian investigators have discovered that he was paid huge (really huge) sums of money over several years by unknown sources close to deposed president Yanukovych. The idea that this money was merely "image consultancy fees" seems to be stretching credibility, as is the idea that that money came only from Ukraine. Mamafort was very ostentatiously dumped by Trump when his Yanukovych connectinos came to light, but I am not sure that that necessarily lets anyone off the hook. No one really knows yet, but there will be more indictments, there is no doubt of that. And Trump would be well counselled to keep quiet meantime. He doesn't do "dignified" of course.

[Kromovaracun]

Not sure I agree Ich, I think he can actually make considerable political capital from having fired Manafort so early.

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There's not much else to do but wait and see. Papadopolous has pleaded guilty to doing exactly what Donald Trump Jr. was found out to be doing - meeting with Kremlin contacts for illegally-obtained dirt on Clinton.

If that's all Mueller has, though, then it's difficult to see these collusion charges go much further. But that's a big if, and this could only be an opening salvo.

So we'll just have to wait...

[ichkeria]

As I said before, firing Manafort was very ostentatiously done: if - and there is as far as anyone outside the investigation knows - there was far more to Mansfort’s contacts and influence, then the fact he was fired from the campaign makes not a lot of difference.
It wouldn’t however surprise me if it turned out that Russia’s intention all along was simply mischief making. They have not exactly been discreet: they know Trump is easily flattered and quite possibly easily blackmailed: but mere association by suspicion is enough seriously to destabilise the US political system. And every time Putin opens his mouth in support of him he knows fine well it is embarrassing him: but Trump seems either too dumb or to see it or too proud to admit it.
Those Manafort payments though ...

[ichkeria]

"if - and there is as far as anyone outside the investigation knows"

That should be:
"if - and there is as far as anyone outside the investigation knows there is no evidence for it "

[EDDIE51]

I still think Papadopolous has confessed in return for a guarantee of a
'slap on the wrist' instead of full prosecution and imprisonment. The deal is that in return he drops Trump in the S**** . We await development. He may also be thinking of picking up the $10 million reward offered by Flynt for damaging information on President Chump.

[ichkeria]

"If that's all Mueller has, though"
Tip of the iceberg, I have no doubt: these things usually proceed by a series of gradually more serious or widespread charges: of course, they may not involve Trump at all. No one yet knows.

[mikey4444]

This is worse than Watergate was at its height. Everything that touches Trump is turning toxic

This is only the start.

[gulliver1]

Why all this interest in American Politics, when our own present Government could not run a p*** up in a Brewery.
Should we be getting our own house in order first?.

[jim360]

Certainly if this were the end of it Mueller would have come out and said so. But beyond that I can't say I really believe that it will end up going all the way to the top.

Still, it's amusing to see how rapidly people on Trump's side have been distancing themselves from Manafort when last year they were all over him expressing their gratitude.

[EDDIE51]

A lot more information on Quora
https://www.quora.com/Is-Trump-adviser-George-Papadopouloss-guilty-plea-a-boon-to-the-Mueller-investigation

[ToraToraTora]

the link is not about Trump! PMSL, what are you expecting is going to happen? How is Trump going to go? No president has ever been removed from office so I guess you are hoping for a resignation but that only leaves you with Pence not your beloved Hilary.

[jim360]

I think it's fair to say that some liberals are a little too excited at the prospect of Trump getting impeached -- it's not clear how that could happen feasibly as long as both Houses of Congress are controlled by his party, for example, let alone the fact that as yet he's not been personally implicated in any of this.

Still, it theoretically could happen. Mueller's investigation is probably not going to lead all the way to the top but if it catches in the net many of Trump's supporters and colleagues then he will still personally be affected by association. It will also be interesting to see how Trump reacts. All along the investigation there's been talk of Trump, directly or indirectly, firing Mueller and (effectively) killing the investigation. Even now some, such as Newt Gingrich, are calling for that step. Such would be a gross conflict of interest -- firing the guy who's potentially investigating you?! And yet Trump already did that once this year, when he sacked FBI Director James Comey.

[Spicerack]

7years+. You'd better get used to it.