Why Won't Our Politicians, Media Or Even Some On Here Now Admit That Mass Migration Is Responsible For Putting Pressure On Our Housing, Nhs And Schools?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5200603/Stephen-Glover-migration-housing-crisis.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5200425/Migration-harder-young-buy-homes.html

[Bigbad]

Togo. I remember on one of the pre-brexit vote programmes, a Polish couple were interviewed.
Naturally, they were anti-brexit.
Their daughter, who was about 11 or 12, was born and raised in the UK, but brought up to say she was Polish, and how proud she was to be Polish.

[-Talbot-]

Spicey,.......more proof that you are providing today....for the record, I don't believe you when it comes to "I talked to all my friends and family"



You would have to be one of AB's 'thicker' posters to not understand why spicerack submitted that post.

[RobNorth]

It's all so simple - presumably the well documented glut of housing and over capacity in services in the UK prior to the large increase in immigration in the noughties has now been used up and that is the problem....

[New Judge]

Interesting that you should mention the 1990s, Rob.

Your rather quaint hypothesis would hold water if everything was Hunky-Dory in the 1990s. Unfortunately it wasn't. There were housing problems and pressure on public services a-plenty. So the question that needs to be asked is if there were those problems in the 1990s (which showed little sign of being properly addressed) why was net migration allowed to increase from an average of 36,000 per annum in the early 1990s to an average of over a quarter of a million per annum in the last five years?

Since 1990 the UK population has increased by 8 million from 57m to around 65m (that we know of) now. Net migration in that same period totalled just under 5 million. With those simple numbers how anybody can argue that migration has not had an enormous influence on the problems facing the UK's housing and public services is a little hard to fathom.

[tonyav]

Bliar must have had Dianne Abbott doing the sums.

[DaisyNonna]

Why blame people who only want a better life?
Or only a life to live

[RobNorth]

NJ
My hypothesis was tongue in cheek...and aimed at the noughties rather than nineties - because a young Pole I knew in 2005 assured me that there were then 600,000 Poles in the UK - he was one of around ten working in a hotel in the sticks and the locals had lost their jobs in short order because these visitors had no home life to consider and would work any time for any duration, retiring occasionally to their caravans hidden away in the grounds. I questioned his maths but he was adamant, being well connected both here and in Poland.
A large engineering company that I was involved with at that time had loads of Polish welders working night shift - they were delivered and collected by agents with buses - not minibuses.

[Deskdiary]

Interesting that Islay has gone quiet. Speaks volumes! She's very cĺearly a liar amd mikey spins so much he must be dizzy.

[Mamyalynne]

//She's very clearly a liar//

Did you mean to type that?

Can you back it up?

Have you read Site Rules?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Speed dial not working tonight, Mamya?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Wrong diagnosis. It's the others, innit? Et Homerus nutat.

[Mamyalynne]

Run that by me again please V_E.

[Mamyalynne]

Not the quote, the previous response.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//Run that by me again please V_E.//

I wouldn't patronise you, Mamya. You deserve better respect.

[tonyav]

Have a listen to Doreen.

[Deskdiary]

Mamya- do the Site Rules state I'm not allowed to give an honest opinion? (That's actually a genuine question- I've never read the Site Rules because I have, what is referred to in the medical world, A Life. Anybody who has read the Site Rules needs to stop wannking, leave it alone for a bit, and go outside for some fresh air. It's looking like it might be a nice day).

[Togo]

Brilliant AV. Forwarded.

[emmie]

Doreen talks the way politicians should, it may be in a poem but that was exceptional, what a talent.

[Mamyalynne]

An honest opinion is fine DD, you have sure and certain proof of your inflammatory statement do you?

Anyone who doesn't check the rules of a group they join may be the one who needs to read them most.

[naomi24]

Not much point in checking 'the rules'. They're elastic.