Corbyn's Britain

[Spicerack]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5011849/Haunting-images-prisoners-Stalin-s-Gulag-prisons.html

[Spicerack]

It ALWAYS ends the same way.

[mikey4444]

Another well-thought out bilge of a post from you again Spicey !

[Spicerack]

'Bilge of a post' doesn't sound quite right, to me, mikey.
However, I'm not a well educated person like yourself.

[woofgang]

no...I like bilge of a post...... good description.....

[mikey4444]

lol Woofy !

[Old_Geezer]

Getting in a few last trolls before one reaches New Year resolution time ?

[Baldric]

Mikey, well educated, leave it out!

[Kromovaracun]

Corbyn comes from about the same wing of Labour as Attlee did (in fact Attlee and Gaitskell were, as far as I can make out, more left wing than Corbyn is). I don't know of any equivalent to GULAG being built in Britain at that time - or by any of Attlee's Tory and Labour successors who preserved his legacy - but I could of course be wrong.

[dannyk13]

Kromo.// Attlee and Gaitskell were, as far as I can make out, more left wing than Corbyn is//
A bit of a grey area.
https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/43424/Was%20patriotic%20reformer%20Clement%20Attlee%20on%20the%20Labour%20Party%E2%80%99s%20left%20or%20right?

[Kromovaracun]

That article takes a very present-minded view of what "the left" is rather than what it was in his own time. Certainly Attlee looks like a relatively conservative figure if you compare him to modern politics, but in his own time he was much further to the left of the then political consensus in Britain than Corbyn is in our own time.

[Zacs-Master]

You mean when Labour had a purpose, Kromo?

[Kromovaracun]

I'm not sure that opposing nuclear weapons, for example, became a left-wing cause celebré until the late '50s.

[Kromovaracun]

I guess so Zacs, yes. The Labour/Tory split at the time spoke more truthfully to the way in which society was actually divided than it does now.

[jno]

the way anyone who disagreed with Stalin was called a traitor does have a resonance in Brexit Britain. doesn't it?

[Khandro]

Amazing series of photographs, worth looking at by everyone to draw whatever conclusions they may.
My conclusion is; as nothing like that has ever happened in a democracy, socialism isn't the way.

[sp1814]

//My conclusion is; as nothing like that has ever happened in a democracy, totalitarianism isn't the way.//

There, fixed it for you.

[Khandro]

sp; 'Totalitarianism' isn't a political philosophy, (nobody stands on that ticket) but Socialism is

[ichkeria]

The photos are interesting (the article is from October of course).
Corbyn is a chump but the headline from the op is of course daft - meant as a troll no doubt and I am quite happy to bite :-)

[sp1814]

khandro

We live in a society which operates under capitalistic and socialist principles.

Capitalism does not work without socialistic elements and vice versa.

There are no purely successful capitalist countries in the world.

Your statement doesn't make sense:

"nothing like that has ever happened in a democracy, socialism isn't the way."

Socialism isn't an alternative to democracy. It's an element of it.

Totalitarianism is the alternative to democracy.

[ichkeria]

I agree with kromo about Corbyn re Attlee etc, but that surely is the problem. Attlee was great for his time. Corbyn still lives in that era.
He is just too divisive, and weak in the face of his shadowy "advisers".
I don't think the gulag is coming here tho: the Stalinist gulag was just a 20th Century reworking of Tsarist serfdom. Albeit on a grander scale.