Looks Like The E U Are Bricking It...

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/896868/brexit-eu-single-market-business-finance-uk-theresa-may-europe
"There are reportedly fears on the EU side that a post-Brexit British economy, freed from the burden of EU regulation, will be able to suck jobs and investment out of Europe." - pity the VB over here don't have the same confidence in Britain that the EUSSR seem to have.

[jno]

oh dear, you're a full-time sucker, TTT in my opinion.

"On Turkey’s chances of joining the EU, [Mordaunt] said: “This is our last chance to have a say on this, we’re not going to be consulted on whether those countries should join. Those countries are going to join, it is a matter of when.”

Andrew Marr suggested this was wrong, given “the British government does have a veto on Turkey joining, so we don’t have to let them join”.

But Ms Mordaunt replied: “No, it doesn’t. We are not going to be able to have a say.”

LIE.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/penny-mordaunt-andrew-marr-uk-veto-tory-minister-accused-of-flat-out-lying-over-turkey-joining-the-a7041956.html

Likewise, when Peston asks why the £350 million pledge isn't in the Tory manifesto, Boris says "It is".

LIE.

[THECORBYLOON]

NJ if the suggestion of paying £350m each week to the NHS were to become a reality, bearing in mind a net £156m was being paid to the EU, where is the other £194m going to come from?

[ToraToraTora]

it's in your own link jno! PMSL try listening to it again. oh dear, your hatred of Britain is blinding you.

TCL £350m is what we give, after brexit we would not be giving it at all so we would have control of the full £350m. The Eu will have to find the other £194m from their other members, perhaps that's why they are whinning so much.

[New Judge]

Nobody said £350m a week would be paid to the NHS. I tend to go along with the notion that it was a "suggestion" as to how the money we send to the EU might otherwise be spent. But as I said earlier, I don't believe much of what any politician tells me so it's a question that didn't enter my head. Current politicians and what they said during the campaign made not one iota of difference to the way I voted and it was never likely to. I made my decision on what I had seen had actually happened not on what some "here today, gone tomorrow" politician told me what might or might not. People who listen to politicians' promises or threats have only themselves to blame when they discover they've been misled.

[jourdain2]

Agree completely with NJ. The sum on the side of the bus was only ever an illustration of how the money could possibly be used. I, too, voted on my own experiences, knowledge and understanding - not the rhetoric of politicians.

[THECORBYLOON]

TTT what happens to the various UK sectors that had been getting the £194m each week between them from the EU if it goes to the NHS instead?

[Old_Geezer]

There was never a suggestion by the leave campaign to pay £350m each week to the NHS, as has been pointed out umpteen times. It was never written on the bus, that was remainer misinformation, as pointed out umoteen times. (There may have been the odd individual that in the heat of discussion didn't say what they meant or believed.) So there is no net £156m to account for. It's remainer deception only. Can not understand why intelligent people keep bringing this up.

[Togo]

Deal then we get out of the EUSSR and Turkey takes our slot. That I do like. :))

[Old_Geezer]

UMPTEEN
!!!!

[THECORBYLOON]

NJ since the UK has not been contributing £350m each week to the EU, there won't suddenly be that amount available to the Government anýway when we leave, regardless of how they decide to spend the savings.

[New Judge]

“…what happens to the various UK sectors that had been getting the £194m each week between them from the EU if it goes to the NHS instead?”

It doesn’t really matter because they were not getting it from the EU. They were getting it from the sums returned from the UK’s payments. The issue is that currently every pound that is sent to the EU is entirely controlled by them. About half of it is retained to be spent on their administrative expenses and their wealth distribution schemes. The other half (which makes up your £194m) comes back to be spent as directed. Post Brexit the entire pound can be spent as seen fit by the UK Parliament.

[Jackdaw33]

What puzzles me is why small, impoverished, East European states are allowed in the EU. I can see what's in it for them, loads of moolah, but what's in it for the EU, unless it is complete domination of the entire continent.

[New Judge]

"NJ since the UK has not been contributing £350m each week to the EU,..."

Which again doesn't matter. Whatever the sums involved (and I think it is common ground that they are considerable and at a minimum £8bn p.a.) they will be controlled by the UK, not the EU. You seem obsessed with the "£350m per week", presumably on the basis of what politicians told you.

[New Judge]

"What puzzles me is why small, impoverished, East European states are allowed in the EU."

It's principally so that they can be given "support" from the five net contributors which they can spend mainly on German goods and services.

[ToraToraTora]

"TTT what happens to the various UK sectors that had been getting the £194m each week between them from the EU if it goes to the NHS instead? " - well they I assume are EU projects, we wont be in the EU, they'll be funded or not like everything else.

[Jackdaw33]

Where the UK leads, others will follow. I know that sounds a bit trite, but we will not be the only ones to secede from the EU. Eventually it will be left to France and Germany to prop up the remaining basket-case economies. I look forward to that.

[ToraToraTora]

just wait till they start slapping the extra dues on the other countries then you'll see the merde fly.

[THECORBYLOON]

NJ the Leave Campaign said the £350m each week could be spent on priorities such as the NHS. The implication was the amount would be in addition to what the Government spends already.

However, of that sum, £194m is already accounted for by being paid elsewhere so there can't be an additional £350m each week can there?

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TCL, "However, of that sum, £194m is already accounted for by being paid elsewhere " - yes but that's what the EU condescends to give back to the UK for EU projects. We will now have that money directly, no doubt some will go to the same places but the important thing is that it's OUR CHOICE.

[Jackdaw33]

The Left and their lickspittling toadies will never forgive us for standing up for our own and reclaiming our heritage.