Is The Nhs Taking Political Correctness Two Steps Too Far?

[naomi24]

The trans trap: Women who identify as men are NOT offered routine NHS breast cancer screening... but men who identify as women WILL get cervical smear tests – even though they don’t have a cervix.

Conservative MP David Davies, who has campaigned against Government plans to let people legally ‘self-identify’ their own gender, said: ‘This NHS effort to be politically correct is putting the lives of women who claim to be men at risk.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5266833/NHS-breast-cancer-screening-not-offered-trans-men.html

What an utterly ridiculous situation – and all in an effort to avoid causing offence. Barmy!

[NoMercy]

I still can't fathom how cells can be scraped from a non-existent cervix. Am I missing something?

[douglas9401]

It's all very well us sitting typing away about smear tests but experts have looked at this and a decision's been made.

Speculumation about the rights and wrongs are pointless.

[Deskdiary]

I'm amazed we're even discussing giving people without a cervix (i.e men) a smear test.

I honestly don't think I've heard anything quite as absurd as this for a long time - if at all.

[Togo]

I think that brain scans would be wasted on some as well Deskdiary. :))

[NoMercy]

Specumulation - ha ha !!

[Togo]

Yes and Uterine cancer is not for ***. :))

[Togo]

Rhymed with buses.

[Bathsheba]

Kudos to Douglas and Woofgang for correcting where I daren't. You missed a glaring one in spath's comment though ;)
Baths
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[Old_Geezer]

I have no idea is folk who have surgical parts made to mimic the opposite sex's parts, suffer the same issues as the sex they are mimicking, or not. What they should be offered healthwise should depend on what they are at risk of. PC considerations should not enter into it.

[sp1814]

naomi21

I don’t know whether you’ve read the PHE leaflet, but I have, and it’s explained in better detail than in the Daily Mail piece.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/623309/Transgender_cross_programme_screening_leaflet.pdf

Trans men, registered at their GP as women will not get smear tests. I don’t know why the Daily Mail has suggested this.

Please, please look at the booklet. It will outline exactly what is offered.

[sp1814]

Wherever possible, check the source of stories in nation papers. It’s always best to see the raw data, rather than the spin.

[sp1814]

Sorry - that should be naomi24, not naomi21.

[Old_Geezer]

3 years older now ?

[Togo]

//Men who identify as female are being offered cervical screening tests even though they don't have a cervix//

//Women’s campaigner Laura Perrins told the Mail On Sunday: “We’ve now got to the point where state collusion with this transgender agenda is endangering the health of women.
“It’s a ludicrous use of NHS resources to invite men for a cervical smear test, while it’s immoral and dangerous not to invite women.”
This comes after the British Medical Association advised members not to call pregnant women “expectant mothers” but “pregnant people” instead.//

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5341098/men-who-identify-as-women-are-invited-for-cervical-smear-without-a-cervix/

[Sqad]

"Some trans people can be scientifically proven."

True, but the majority, the vast majority have either male OR female sex chromosomes.
XXY is very uncommon.

[sp1814]

Togo

From the booklet:

//If you are a trans woman aged 25 to 64 you won’t need to be screened as you don’t have a cervix.//

Where a trans woman is registered as a woman at her GP, they could be invited for cervical screening, but they won’t. At the point that the patient registers at the GP, the GP will advise the NHS that cervical screening is not required.

Trans women won’t be invited for smear tests because their GPs know that they won’t have cervixes.

I’m not sure if that’s the correct plural of cervix.

[jackthehat]

///Wherever possible, check the source of stories in nation papers. It’s always best to see the raw data, rather than the spin.///

Darn you and your sensible posts, sp....

There'd be nothing to froth and complain about if we all went round confirming the veracity of what we have read before firing off condemnatory and censorious posts .....

[pixie374]

The simplest thing to do would be to record both sex and gender on medical notes, instead of pretending they are the same thing. Then everyone will get the invitations that are biologically and psychologically appropriate.