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-Talbot- | 20:49 Thu 18th Jan 2018 | News
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I know most ABers want to ignore Sweden on concentrate on America (for some reason) but .....

https://www.thelocal.se/20171212/swedish-pm-sweden-has-an-anti-semitism-problem

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sweden-violence/swedish-pm-does-not-rule-out-use-of-army-to-end-gang-violence-idUSKBN1F629L?il=0

http://www.friatider.se/som-om-det-vore-krig-i-v-rt-land

And on top of that
https://nypost.com/2018/01/17/sweden-is-preparing-its-people-for-war/


About ten years ago all I knew about Sweden was Volvo, Saab, Abba and nude mixed saunas and possibly Ikea ... Is the Swedish PM and the moderate party leader Ulf Kristersson doing a Trump and making stuff up?



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//What's going on here?//

Look at the links Talbot has given in the OP to see what is going on in Sweeden.
Most people don't follow Sweden as closely as Donald Trump seems to :-)
THat is probably why few people have much to say about what Swedish politicians think about anything.
There is growing alarm at Russian activity though, with Russia threatening Sweden repeatedly of unpleasant consequences if it joins NATO.
One of the links is in Swedish, too, which doesn't help, but a quick glance at the links to articles in English is rather enlightening

https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2018/01/16/chelsea-manning-challenges-anti-russia-fanatic-ben-cardin/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AWCBlog+%28Antiwar.com+Blog%29

Hmmm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiwar.com

Supported by such beacons of enlightenment as Pat Buchanan, Noam Chomsky and Ron Paul.
youngmafbog

But why?

Is this leading off from something specific?

Why Sweden all of a sudden?
What I'm getting at is this:

"I know most ABers want to ignore Sweden on concentrate on America"

Has this come from a thread where someone has raised a question about Sweden, to have it diverted to talk about Trump or Pence or Oprah?

It's just weird.

Happy to talk about Sweden, but I don't know why it's come up all of a sudden.
I've just looked through the links.

Why in God's name are we looking at a link in Swedish?

http://www.friatider.se/som-om-det-vore-krig-i-v-rt-land

Seriously - what the hell is going on here???
I think most ABers don't want to talk about America or Sweden..... Statistically I bet most ABers want help solving crosswords or health and DIY advice.
"http://www.friatider.se/som-om-det-vore-krig-i-v-rt-land

Seriously - what the hell is going on here??? "

See my posts at 10.34 and 10.38.
We are being led up a specific garden path I suspect
The only one leading you "up a garden path" is ichy. These riots and gang wars with violence are nothing to do with Russia. They are being conducted by the vibrant new cultures introduced to make life in Sweden more representative of the new World policies of the EUssr. Of course these gangs are anti-Semetic........their "religious beliefs" demand it. News like this is carefully controlled in the media........wrong message donncha know.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/754126/Violent-migrant-gangs-Swedish-shopping-centre-no-go-zone-Gothenburg
I'm not suggesting anything of the sort.
I AM suspicious of websites that link to sites like antiwar.com however
Talbot did not post links to Antiwar.......You did! It has got nothing to do with the point that Talbot is making about the riots and violence in Sweden. If you desire a pro Russian discussion start a thread, don't just tag onto a different subject for whatever reason.
Really to suggest that you are suspicious because buried in the links(unable to find it by the way) is a further topic that links to a site that is pro Russian is alarmist to say the least, and a false position. Also in there if you look. "Ikea offers discount if you pee on their new ad."
I did not bother looking. :))
Togo

But better than posting links to Swedish websites that none of us who haven't learned the language can read.
There are 4 links posted by the op. Two I can’t comment on because I have no idea what the situation is on that. One is in Swedish and all there is to go on are the links on English to a US noninterventionist website and I’m wondering what the reason for that is. The 4th link is actually about the threat to Sweden from Russia although I suspect it may be presented as mocking the Swedes I am not sure.
So sorry to sound like Basil Fawlty but it wasn’t me that started it ;-)

Here you go.... the Swedish translation that appears to be beyond you.

Media.Crime and immigration were the focus when this year's first Riksdag debate was held on Wednesday morning. Moderate Party leader Ulf Krister asked, among other things, why one can get the feeling that there is war in our country while Jimmie Åkesson (SD) marked softness and signaled new image by not mentioning either expulsions or harsher punishment during The debate on crime.
Prime Minister Stefan Löfven (S) warned at the same time of the risks of large tax cuts.
"It is obvious that there are major societal problems. We have Violet crime that we cannot accept, we shall press back. We have a well-being that is unique, but still does not deliver what it should-we will improve it. "None of these problems are solved with major tax cuts," said the Prime minister.
Democrats party leader Jimmie Åkesson was prepared to go a long way in the fight against crime. He said, however, likely to many of his followers ' disappointment, not harsher punishment or an increased number of deportations as solutions to the problem. Instead, he wanted to curtail the rule of legal certainty and the possibility of moving freely in multicultural Sweden.
"It should be possible to introduce temporary curfews at night," said Åkesson and continued:
– The right to testify anonymously is to be investigated.
Ulf Krister described a chaotic situation in the country.
"During last year, 300, so-called" shooting "was carried out in Sweden. 42 dead, criminals with hand grenades as if it were war in our country, said the M-leader.
But Krister's statement did not impress Åkesson.
"I don't want to hear a single moderate in this House blaming, especially Ulf Krister's son, who sat in Reinfeldt's government and is responsible for what is happening in Sweden today," Åkesson said.
Stefan Löfven, who was the S-peak who saved the system of gains in welfare when he replaced Håkan Juholt, who was thinking of eliminating the profits, had as usual double message in the matter.
"We'll make sure that our tax money goes to what they're meant for, and never ever to criminal activities," said Löfven.
He also pointed out that the Social Democrats are pursuing a somewhat less generous asylum line than Fredrik Reinfeldt did before the elections.
"An unsustainable migration policy has been restated," the Prime Minister stated.
At the same time, recent figures from the Swedish Immigration Service show that the Löf government granted 135.529 residence permits in 2017, an increase of 32 percent since Fredrik Reinfeldt was voted away from power.
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Why in God's name are we looking at a link in Swedish?


Most people even remotely adept at using the internet can solve that non problem.

As I suspected posters would rather sidetrack the actual crux of the thread ... leading Swedish politicians are now openly admitting they do have a problem.

Why Sweden?
Because it is a damn site nearer than the USA ... in fact it is part of Our continent.
//Most people even remotely adept//

Sigh....Damned with faint praise. :))
//Why Sweden?
Because it is a damn site nearer than the USA ... in fact it is part of Our continent. //

Wasn't Sweden the golden template and shining example that we were to follow, despite some of us having reservations.(Not N. American reservations I must add)

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