Votes For 16: Wales Voting Reforms See Voting Age Lowered

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-42848685

Good ! If people are being taxed, then they deserve the right to vote...why not ?

[ToraToraTora]

is lowering the voting age the only way there is to increase left wing voters?

[emmie]

gromit i don't think voters are dim by any means, what makes you think that..

[Gromit]

TTT,
The Labour Party campaigned NO to Indepedence in the Scottish Referendum, and the 16 year olds rejected that by 70%.

Youth are not born left wing and it is something they grow out of.

[Zacs-Master]

No Tora, the ethnic vote is also very important to them. Now, how does that work with immigration policies.......?

[-Talbot-]

Well despite the OPer continuing his childishness and ignoring me, this has been a great thread with interesting contributions from both sides of the argument.
On top of that, I have been informed of some fascinating things that have surprised me.

Gromit's father voted for the National Front.
naomi was brought up in a commie environment.

And women were not given the vote because they were silly.

[Gromit]

Emmie,

Not all voters are bright. We meet many dim adults in our lives, and they all have a vote. Denying 16 year olds a vote because you think they are not politically astute, is not a valud reason.

[naomi24]

Gromit. //Denying 16 year olds a vote because you think they are not politically astute, is not a valud reason.//

Who gave that as a reason?

[andres]

It might be a good idea to put lessons on politics into every senior school. Then at least they would have some idea of what they would be voting for . At the present time most 16 years old youngsters either don't have a clue or couldn't care less .

[ToraToraTora]

gromit; "Youth are not born left wing and it is something they grow out of. " - indeed, hence the left demand the lowering of the voting age to give them a better chance of getting a youngsters vote before said youngster does "grow out of it".

[mikey4444]

Naomi....you did, at 09:17.

[cassa333]

Politics and economics. Not perhaps as exam based but as subjects to be understood.

Perhaps more weople will be inclined to vote and actually think about what they are voting for.

[mikey4444]

Cassa...the difficulty with those subjects is that they tend not to be taught, unless at senior levels.

Basic economics, like mortgages, bank loans and stuff like that, weren't taught when I was at school 50 years ago.....I would like to think matters had changed now, but I am not convinced that they have been.

[bhg481]

Mikey - 50 years ago if you wanted a bank loan or a mortgage you had to put on your best suit and grovel. Nowadays you are constantly fending off the offers to give you a loan. Mortgages tended to be for the many years you expected to live in the property, not just a few years, as now. You took a loan/mortgage from anyone who who give you one, so no shopping around and chopping-and-changing as people do now. You worked out whether or not you could afford the repayments and that was it. Economics wasn't quite so complicated in those days.

[dannyk13]

I would hate to think that any of my children had the vote at sixteen.

[bhg481]

I would hate to think that I had the vote at 16.

[anneasquith]

When we are discussing " 16 year olds " that does include 17 years to 18 years olds as well, some young people are more than able to understand the voting process, some 60 year olds don't .

[-Talbot-]

When we are discussing " 16 year olds " that does include 17 years to 18 years olds as well



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[naomi24]

Mikey, //Naomi....you did, at 09:17. //

No I didn't. I didn't mention political astuteness.

[Garaman]

Young/Old is the new Left/Right.

[cassa333]

I'm not talking personal economics, although I also think it is important to be taught, this is what comes in and his is what goes out. If you want to spend more you have to earn more.

However I mean at least basic business economics and how that relats to national and world economics.

Not rocket science but an understanding of where all this free money and such like actually cthe mes from.

Ideology is wonderful when you have no idea how the world works.