Votes For 16: Wales Voting Reforms See Voting Age Lowered

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-42848685

Good ! If people are being taxed, then they deserve the right to vote...why not ?

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// Its clear that during the 2017 Election, the younger the voter was, the more they voted for Labour. ///

A perfect example of immaturity.

[mikey4444]

So what you are saying then Naomi, is that 16 and 17 years olds shouldn't be allowed to vote, as they might vote for the wrong Party, ie Labour !

Doesn't sound every democratic to me.

The same argument was used to justify why women should't be given the vote.

[kvalidir]

I paid tax before I was 16 Eddie, I'm glad to see this, it's a step in the right direction from all the babyfication that's going on now where young people are afforded no responsibility whatsoever. And as for the argument that they might vote for the wrong people... well that's straight out of Animal Farm.

[Zacs-Master]

Well it’s nice to see you admit Labour are the wrong party, Mikey. Alleluia.

[mikey4444]

Zacs....I presume that last remark was made in jest.

Perhaps I should have posted "wrong" instead !

[Zacs-Master]

‘they might vote for the wrong Party, ie Labour !‘

Your own words Mikey.

[-Talbot-]

How many ABers can honestly say they had the remotest interest in politics at 16 years old?

Other than the few kids a TV crew will wheel out to make ill-informed comments on the BBC most 16-year-olds are still not interested in politics.

[mikey4444]

Zacs...stop being tiresome....you know exactly what I was saying....I was responding to Naomi's post.

[Zacs-Master]

And here’s me thinking you’d joined the other mature voters and had an epiphany.

[naomi24]

Mikey, //So what you are saying then Naomi, is that 16 and 17 years olds shouldn't be allowed to vote, as they might vote for the wrong Party, ie Labour !//

No, I am not saying that. I am saying their youthful idealism and their inexperience of life renders them unqualified to make a truly informed decision.

[mikey4444]

Kv...that is exactly what is being suggested here.

If young voters were more likely to vote Tory, than you can be sure that our resident "righties" would be supporting this move !

[-Talbot-]

Zacs ... best stop now or you will be joining me on the naughty step.

[Zacs-Master]

As a ‘righty’ I’ve already said we need to engage young people with politics and if lowering the voting age does that, it would be a good thing.

[cassa333]

It's not the political party the young vote for really. Because if I thought Labour wouldn't bankrupt the country in a flash I would probably vote for them sometimes.

It is the fact they are idealistic without the ability to see clearly how things work : i.e. Business leaders, movers and shakers are very much needed to create employment and wealth.

Without them we would be vastly less well off and we don't need any political party in power that will stifle that.

[-Talbot-]

Never voted Tory in my life and I am saying that 16 year olds are too young to be given the vote.

My kids think 16 is too young to be given the vote. As ael said earlier the vast majority will not use it.

[Gromit]

-Talbot,
I first election(s) I remember was 1974, I was 10 and I knew exactly which party I would vote for. My father voted for the National Front, which appalled me even then.
I could not vote in 1979, but I was very politically aware then.

[mikey4444]

Naomi....that is exactly what you are saying !

I repeat, if young people, in general, were "mature enough" to vote Tory, you would support this move to the hilt.

And you assertion that young people were immature and that is why they voted Labour, is breath taking in its bigotry.

Again, I point you in the direction of Votes for Women.

What would your stance have been 100 years ago ?

Would you have supported the notion, that women were too silly and "immature" to be allowed the vote ?

[Zacs-Master]

I think people are saying 16/17 year olds aren’t mature enough to vote, period. Nothing to do with bigotry.

[mikey4444]

I voted for the first time in the second Election in 1974, and I voted Labour then.

I might not have been typical of my generation but I was politically aware. I had joined my trade union a few days past my 17th birthday, and I have been politically aware and active ever since.

[Gromit]

Mikey
I was 15 at the 1979 election. If I had have had a vote, I would have voted Conservative. Did you ?