Let's Walk Away Now......

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/leaked-eu-document-shows-brexit-punishment-plan-11239487
It seems the evil empire is going to punish us for having the temerity to defy their dystopian dream.

[Togo]

The EU is making it up as they go along and some are happy to be in thrall of their peevish judgements. It will still be there, ( not for long mind) but strangely no one appears to be concerned about their "rights" to over move there........only the rights of them to move here. You know the place that is not at all attractive to people who value freedom and democracy.

[Jackdaw33]

I see Project Fear hasn't gone away yet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42977967

[Zacs-Master]

That’s not project fear, that just proves the main areas who voted leave were stupid enough to risk their industries and futures.

[Togo]

Whereas the centrist luvvies all voted to serve their EUSSR masters for ever, in case they were ever forced to make a meaningful decision. They are so used to letting an faceless bureaucratic toad do it for them that they still pine for nurse for fear of something worse.

[Jackdaw33]

//The main areas who voted leave were stupid enough to risk their industries and futures.\\

In the forty-odd years we have been in the EU we have seen our shipyards decimated, our steel industry negligible, our coal mines non-existent and our fishing industry a shadow of its former self. Who are the stupid ones here?

[Togo]

Back of the net Jackdaw. :))

[Zacs-Master]

They were all industries which were dying anyway, in the case of the mines, the miners Unions had squeezed profit margins so much that it was cheaper to import coal than to mine it domestically. The steel industry suffered because of this (no cheap local source of energy for the furnaces). Shipyards had no market due to competition from overseas. The fishing industry had massively overfished our seas to an unsustainable level (this has now been reversed hence it being one of the most controversial aspects of Brexit).

Back of the net. Don’t make me laugh. Do your research!

[-Talbot-]

And what does your research say about certain areas of the EU, Zacs?

Everything going to be hunky dory for them?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Where is the moral sense that would make someone prefer to be a rich slave rather than a free man? Isn't that what self-respect is?

Where is the moral sense which says: yes, it may be tough, we can't judge what's ahead, we do know that circumstances may and some institutions and people will[i be hostile to our success, [i]but[i]...

And the [i]but] is: we're a proud and resourceful people, and we will make it work despite all that.

It needs a Churchill to say that. And we've got a May.

[Zacs-Master]

Like what? Big subject area.

[Zacs-Master]

VE, it’s very naive to say we won’t have people who we are in thrall to when we leave the EU. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

[vetuste_ennemi]

"In thrall"? "New masters"?

I may end up with a Corbyn government. But the British people will be able to get rid of Corbyn. They can't get rid of the Commission, scrutinise its deliberations, or reverse its mistakes.

[Zacs-Master]

All irrelevant since the leave vote won. All that remains is to see what the price is.

[vetuste_ennemi]

...the price of everything, yes? and the value of nothing.

I leave you to count the pennies.

[Zacs-Master]

“Better a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without.”
― Confucius

[naomi24]

I hate it that the remainers are so very afraid. We should have fulfilled our obligations and then walked away - free.

[Theland]

Dunkirk spirit. The undemocratic nazis got us on the run we licked our wounds and came back stronger. Deja Vu. The Eurocrats are ill prepared for true British grit.

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

Your ad break thing. Now [i]that’s[i] more like it.

I actually think that’s a pretty good idea. Education is not just about those who practice this, but should also alert those who work with children (social workers, health visitors, GPs, teachers, youth workers etc).

It needs to be brought out into the open, more so than is now.

Excellent idea.

[sp1814]

Excellent idea, but unfortunately, the wrong thread.