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Teresa May, Resolute.
I'm not exactly her #1 fan, but I have to say, she lays her cards on the table here. Interestingly yesterday's Sky News' reporting of this 9 minute interview was reduced to just a few seconds of the interviewer saying how it would be better if you stay (to applause), another example of biased reporting by omission?
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"I havent seen the clip but I will still comment..."
er, classically the Beeb is meant to be less political than newspapers who are allowed to lean hither and thither. Werent the Sun and Daily Mirror in the forefront of the lower interest rates movedment as this would make their own financial burdens less ?
I thought the implication was under reported
that there was to be no side issues settled without the main politically driven one
and here is security - where the UK makes a significant contribution - where everyone is saying 'out is out except of course in security'
if you make an exception in security and intelligence then it is possible ....
"I havent seen the clip but I will still comment..."
er, classically the Beeb is meant to be less political than newspapers who are allowed to lean hither and thither. Werent the Sun and Daily Mirror in the forefront of the lower interest rates movedment as this would make their own financial burdens less ?
I thought the implication was under reported
that there was to be no side issues settled without the main politically driven one
and here is security - where the UK makes a significant contribution - where everyone is saying 'out is out except of course in security'
if you make an exception in security and intelligence then it is possible ....
The trouble with May is that like most politicians she says one thing and does another... or the other is in fact a word play on what they said but wasn't explicitly said but implied etc.
I swing from being optimistic about what she says then downcast in what actually happens.
Red lines become smudged pinkish lines, well because other factors come into play don't you know.
I swing from being optimistic about what she says then downcast in what actually happens.
Red lines become smudged pinkish lines, well because other factors come into play don't you know.
Naomi that is the good bit that she can't change but having seen the last lot of 'negotiations' doesn't instill me without confidence.
It will be, we have to pay this much to stay in security and this much for nuclear and this much for goods trade etc etc etc until we get to financial services where we will get not an iota of benefit.
It will be, we have to pay this much to stay in security and this much for nuclear and this much for goods trade etc etc etc until we get to financial services where we will get not an iota of benefit.
It's easy to sound resolute when you talk though. Talk is cheap. It remains to be seen whether May actually sticks to this principle - and she has a very bad track record of doing so. She was equally resolute in the Tory leadership contest in promising not to call an election - indeed I was very grateful when she won precisely because I felt she was the only candidate principled enough to take a stand against calling one. And then she just changed her mind as soon as the promise wasn't convenient. Likewise (although I personally was not one of them) we had plenty of ABers admiring her for supposedly "grasping the nettle" on social care - which she abandoned very quickly. She famously did the same thing on Hinkley point - approved the deal, then "paused" it indefinitely.
Whatever you think of her policies or her leadership, the indisputable fact is that May is not a reliable person when it comes to these things and simply does not consistently stick to her promises. Laudible, you might say. She's flexible and listens. But you can't praise her for flexibility and for being firm/resolute in the same breath. You have to pick one.
Whatever you think of her policies or her leadership, the indisputable fact is that May is not a reliable person when it comes to these things and simply does not consistently stick to her promises. Laudible, you might say. She's flexible and listens. But you can't praise her for flexibility and for being firm/resolute in the same breath. You have to pick one.
Cassa. I would rather we had simply fulfilled our obligations and then walked away, but the general consensus seems to be that some sort of deal with the EU is essential. As far as I can see, although she is encountering dogged opposition from the people she is attempting to negotiate with, that is what she appears to be trying to achieve – and that takes resolve. I wouldn’t want her workload.
The EU will not negotiate, they have stated that from day 1.
I always find it amusing they say she wont say what the UK wants. They know very well our starting point was we leave but keep all security and trading 'as is'. Clearley this is not acceptable to the EU so they say we need to belong to the customs union, the ECHR and freedom of movement (and pay up) which clearly crosses red lines.
So it is not what one side wants it is what has to be negotiated in between the two lines darn in the sand. Problem is EU don't ant to shift at all, even on sensible things like security (although there may be some movement there now).
Most likely we will end up walking away, but she cant do that yet as she has to appears the Remoaners (not remainers note).
I always find it amusing they say she wont say what the UK wants. They know very well our starting point was we leave but keep all security and trading 'as is'. Clearley this is not acceptable to the EU so they say we need to belong to the customs union, the ECHR and freedom of movement (and pay up) which clearly crosses red lines.
So it is not what one side wants it is what has to be negotiated in between the two lines darn in the sand. Problem is EU don't ant to shift at all, even on sensible things like security (although there may be some movement there now).
Most likely we will end up walking away, but she cant do that yet as she has to appears the Remoaners (not remainers note).
//They're perfectly compatible if the will from both sides is there. //
No, they aren't. You cannot have the full benefits of membership in a trading bloc without being a member of it. That is integral to the definition of what a trading bloc is. If it were permitted, every member of the EU would want a similar arrangement.
No, they aren't. You cannot have the full benefits of membership in a trading bloc without being a member of it. That is integral to the definition of what a trading bloc is. If it were permitted, every member of the EU would want a similar arrangement.
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