Jailed For "hate"

[Khandro]

http://www.itv.com/news/2018-03-07/leaders-of-far-right-group-britain-first-found-guilty-of-religiously-aggravated-harassment/

The pair were arrested last May over the distribution of leaflets and posting of online videos during a rape trial at Canterbury Crown Court involving three Muslim men and a teenager, who were later convicted and jailed. Nothing they said has been proven to be untrue, so is speaking the truth now 'hate'?

[Ken4155]

I guess if they had merely shouted 'Rapists' or 'Nonces', they would not have been arrested. It is obvious from your link that they went much further, hurling racist and religious abuse. Which, of course, are deemed as hate crimes. And, equally obvious is the fact that they used this case to highlight their own political beliefs and had nothing whatsoever to do with protecting anyone.

[fraser]

A sad day for British justice,should never been jailed for exposing the scum who rape whatever there religion.

[Jackdaw33]

In this day and age you criticise Islam and its adherents at your peril.

[Mamyalynne]

You can express your dislike of criminal acts and those who perpetrate them - but as per usual they overstepped the mark.

Going to the home of one and screaming through the door?

That achieves what?

Well, this for a start.

[Theland]

They are heroes ant martyrs for shouting the warning of rampant Islamism. Along with Tommy Robinson. The gutless BBC won't report the truth about the scum invading our land. God bless them.

[Khandro]

//Going to the home of one and screaming through the door?//

"Screaming" is an emotive term to make the act sound as bad as possible. Should two men who rape a young girl be protected from public outrage, what ever form it takes - even shouting through a letterbox?

[Gromit]

Well considering they targetted the wrong people, I cannot see how their abuse could be true, because they attacked innocent people.

So yes, calling someone a rapist who was not the person on trial is hateful.

The numpties filmed their own crimes and posted them on-line, aggravating the distress to their innocent victims.

Jayden also has the Northern Ireland Court case pending.

[Garaman]

I suppose you have to decide whether you think "It was a campaign to draw attention to the race, religion and immigrant background of the defendants" as the judge said, or if you think they would have acted the same regardless of race and religion.

They were stupid anyway as their actions could have hindered the prosecution of some nasty people.

[naomi24]

I can’t see how posting videos and distributing leaflets can be deemed ‘harassment’, but going to the house and shouting abuse through the letterbox is.

[Gromit]

// Fransen banged on the windows and doors of the shop and screamed "paedophile" and "foreigner".

However, in each case, they instead targeted innocent members of the public.

They filmed the abuse and then released it on social media and through the Britain First website. //

How would you like it if these muppets targetted YOU by mistake ?

[Khandro]

Gromit; //How would you like it if these muppets targetted YOU by mistake ?//

If someone shouted abuse through my letterbox mistakenly thinking I was someone else, I would be puzzled and maybe annoyed, but I wouldn't think such action warranted them being sent to prison. A more appropriate sentence might be 4 hours spent tidying up my garden and chopping a few logs.
(Though they wouldn't have needed to shout through the letterbox as I would have opened the door and told them to p* off.)

[naomi24]

That would scare the hell out of me.

[Gromit]

Nice friends you have Khandro...

// Fransen, 32, went to the home of one defendant, Tamin Rahmani, and shouted ‘dirty Muslim rapist, come out’ through the door.

Mr Rahmani’s partner Kelli Best, who was pregnant at the time of the attack last May, blames Fransen for the stillborn birth of her daughter two days later.

Judge Justice Barron, sitting at Folkestone magistrates’ court, said it was ‘impossible’ to find Fransen responsible for the stillbirth but accepted her actions caused Ms Best stress at a difficult time. //

[anneasquith]

This post should be in news section surely ?

[Khandro]

//Mr Rahmani’s partner Kelli Best, who was pregnant at the time of the attack last May, blames Fransen for the stillborn birth of her daughter two days later.//

OMG! they know how to lay it on don't they? These Muslim lawyers are running rings around us, glad they didn't get away with this one.

[Gromit]

// Detective Inspector Bill Thornton of Kent Police said: ‘The fact that completely innocent members of the public were accused of being rapists, making them fear for their own safety, shows how little regard they have for the consequences of their actions. //

[anneasquith]

Court made their decision, guilty verdict, what is the problem ?

[youngmafbog]

Well that's the kettle calling the pot black.

If the Police were not so PC and would go and find these peopple instead of bowing to a certain religion perhaps people would not be vigilantes. Vigilantes are usually there because of what they see as Plod inaction.

These to went right over the top, but so has the Judge with daft sentences which will simply fuel the far right's belief they are being unfairly targeted.

[Gromit]

Ymb,
// Detective Inspector Bill Thornton of Kent Police said: ‘
‘They claimed to be exposing the men who had been accused of rape when in reality they knew little about the case in question and could have put the trial at risk due to their reckless actions.

‘It was the bravery of the female who was attacked and the tireless work of Kent Police detectives who ensured the men responsible are now serving a significant period of time behind bars, not because of any misguided attempt by Golding and Fransen to claim credit for their conviction. //

[Gromit]

As well as the 9 month sentence (she’ll be out in 4), Fransen was also ordered to pay £2,000 to her victims.

Presumably the kind donors to ‘Britain First’ will be paying that.