Salisbury Pm Farce

[needawin]

Sky News 1300 today.
Theresa May says live on TV.
"We are working hard to try and establish who was responsible for the poisoning."
Excuse me if I missed something. I thought the Russian spies were expelled as it was proved Russia was responsible. If they were spies how were they allowed to live in UK?
Boris has softened his tone. Gavin Williamson says to Russia, "Shut up and go away". Really scary stuff from the Government. I'm sure Putin is terrified!

[ludwig]

// Bingo Ludwig, so they made one up. //

I see your logic. They're obviously concocting this whole thing and blaming it on Putin because...er...hang on...because...er...
Nope can't think why. Help me out there will you?

[Peter Pedant]

No you have missed all the 'have any of this been proven in court beyond reaasonable doubt?' threads on AB.

AB is full of reds under the bed and carmie sympathisers - or in Sqad's case - a red IN the bed -

President Macron doit avoir lu ce journal
parce qu'il a dit ...."ee as been saying whatte proof is zair?" - the rest has fallen into line

You have gazzered that their car was towed on the Sunday and only ten days later ( well it could have been much longer ) they notice and discover it in a tow-yard in Gillingham Dorset .....
even on the Tuesday the chief constable was saying - "crime what crime?"

Lord love us

[ToraToraTora]

looks like another anti British Love in, why not have a word with vlad eh?

[Peter Pedant]

blaming it on Putin because...er...hang on...because...er...
Nope can't think why. /////

because it will help Putin win a domestic election if he can show he has clumsiliy gassed two now burnt out spies in a small unknown town in the west country - whcih looked OK two hundred years ago, but now (*)

(*) come friendly bombs - drop on slough
its no good for humans now !
but he mis-spelt it

[Jahulaye]

“I see your logic. They're obviously concocting this whole thing and blaming it on Putin because...er...hang on...because...er...
Nope can't think why. Help me out there will you?”

It’s politics, it doesn’t have to make sense or doesn’t to us the”man and woman on the street”

Tho those in power within the higher echelons know exactly what is happening.

[Peter Pedant]

// Possibly made and administered by the “homeowner” hmmm.//

skriapin was a spy not an industrial chemist - but still
very very likely - I mean everyone does this dont they ?

[jim360]

There will, I suspect, be a lot of the usual goalpost-moving as this story develops. At some point maybe you'll be lucky enough to see the evidence, but then you would say that it was fabricated or the test was done badly, so you'd demand to do the tests yourself. Then you would reach the same conclusions, and decide that the sample must be faulty. But no, that too is genuine, so then it becomes clearly a false-flag operation...

Obviously we have only our government's word on all of this, and I am not for a second advocating blind faith in what they come up with. But there is a difference between healthy scepticism and rampant conspiracy-driven paranoia.

Whom do you trust more? That's what it comes down to in the end. In a dispute between, on the one hand, the British government (and then all the allies of the same who have come out in support of their position), and on the other the Russian government, whom is more worth taking seriously?

[ichkeria]

"looks like another anti British Love in, why not have a word with vlad eh?"

More an anti-common sense love-in I think tora.
It's pointless arguing with conspiracy theorists.

[Jahulaye]

“Whom do you trust more”

Well I trust the strangers assailant Who comes with a knife in his hand more than the “friend” who comes with friendship in one hand and a knife behind his back.

[jim360]

I don't get the reference.

Also, how are those portals in time around CERN going?

[Deskdiary]

"I’ve said this already that even if the poison is only made in Russia under putins watchful eye, it’s still possible a lone wolf spy with a constant in the lab and a grudge against Mr Skripal could have accessed the compound and attacked the afore mentioned without being state sponsored.

Another view is that the compound has been cloned elsewhere by maybe a different government and administered to Skripal with the intention to attempt to frame the Kremlin."

I suppose it was inevitable that some people would start to creep into the world of fantasy and conspiracies - the world doesn't run along the lines of Fleming or Ludlum.

The obvious anwer is more often than not the correct answer. I don't buy the idea that the Russians lost control of the nerve agent and therefore the obvious answer is the assassination was ordered by Putin. These are the only two likely explanations - but one is more likely than the other...but neither will ever be admitted.

It is quite obvious that TM was referring to the actual perpetrators. Couldn't be more obvious.

[Peter Pedant]

// more than the “friend” who comes with friendship in one hand and a knife behind his back.//

so that would be the poisoner or Putin would it ?

[Peter Pedant]

They have to go down and thank the boyz and gurlz bec

[Jahulaye]

“Also, how are those portals in time around CERN going?”

Not my theory, just something I pasted here in the spirit of sparking a debate :)

“I think tora.
It's pointless arguing with conspiracy theorists.”

You’re free to debunk any chatter or conspiracy theories with facts or your own speculation and theories if you have any :)

[jim360]

Was a pretty short debate really.

[Jahulaye]

“so that would be the poisoner or Putin would it ?”

What I mean is all that glitters isn’t gold especially when it comes from the mouths of our politicians or what the media is told to tell us ;)

[Jahulaye]

“Was a pretty short debate really.”

Yes unfortunately but I put this down to users here not wanting to elaborate in fear of being ridiculed which one was unfortunately.

[Peter Pedant]

because they made such a muck up of it in 2005 in London.

The Queen went in and thanked everyone except the doctors - because they were paid to do that sort of thing.

One official report began - The day went quite well all things considered ...
sent back for extensive revision

The BTP locked themselves into BTP HQ tavistock square and wouldnt come out ....

The BMA had a memorial in their rather nice quiet ecclesiastical forecourt ( built for Annei Besant and the Theosophists ) ten days later and was asked why Lord Snotface and Lady placeman werent there poncing around and replied : " because they were nt here on the day"

[ichkeria]

Me: "It's pointless arguing with conspiracy theorists"

Conspiracy theorist: "You’re free to debunk any chatter or conspiracy theories with facts or your own speculation and theories if you have any :) "

Proving my point perfectly.
Conspiracy theorising is great fun. Much more fun than dull fact.

[Jahulaye]

Theories and conspiracy theories do not create themselves but are a mix of facts,logic and deep problem solving. Not all theories are right but are on the right track using the afore mentioned “tools” above.