Oh Dear Another Dead Road User Killed By Computer

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43459156
When are we going to accept that our current software ability is insufficient for this application? at least Uber has the sense to halt their tests.

[DTCwordfan]

How many have their drivers killed in London alone?

[andy-hughes]

I imagine it's the same as when cars and planes were being developed - there are accidents and fatalities along the way.

I am not for one moment making light of this tragedy, merely drawing a historical comparison.

[ToraToraTora]

dunno DTC, start your own thread if you want to.

[Guilbert53]

>>>Another Dead Road

Another ???????

Article says :

It is thought to be the first time an autonomous car has been involved in a fatal collision.

1,792 were killed on UK roads in 2016 (NOT by self driving cars) !!!!

[jno]

Oh, I don’t know, Andy, it’s a matter of record that after Bridget Driscoll was run over and killed in 1896, Britain immediately banned cars and the nation went back to horses and carts.

[DTCwordfan]

Maybe TTT should start a thread to who else has been killed by a robotically driven car?

[pixie374]

That's not a comparison, guilbert. It would depend on the percentages.

[ToraToraTora]

I assume, Guilbert, that English is not your first language. It's ok you will find us very tolerant here.

[pixie374]

//This isn't the first futuristic car involved in a fatal crash. In 2016, a man driving a Tesla was killed while its autopilot system was activated. But Tesla Autopilot is partially autonomous. A human driver is required to handle much of the driving//

[ToraToraTora]

if it helps here is an earlier death: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/17/self-driving-car-crash-proves-nothing-tesla-autopilot

[jno]

Strange how many people struggle to understand your version of English, TTT, have you considered posting in Mockney instead?

[Jackdaw33]

What on earth is an 'autonomous' car? It is meaningless. Some people need to brush up on their Greek before coming out with silly words.

[Hymie]

According to the World Health Organization, road traffic injuries caused an estimated 1.25 million deaths worldwide in the year 2010. That is, one person is killed every 25 seconds.

Or over 3,000 killed per day (everyday) – maybe AI is not yet as good as it should be at controlling a vehicle on our roads, but I would venture that it is already better than the average motorist.

[ToraToraTora]

AI does not exist and linear software is no where near as good as a human.

[fiction-factory]

Worse than Ant seemed to be in the other News story?

[Hymie]

Interestingly, Wikipedia has quite a large article on something that does not exist:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence

[ToraToraTora]

yes they describe it but do not cite any cases of actual intelligence. It's just better and better hardware being able to execute more and more instructions to give the illusion of "thinking". For intelligence to emerge a major breakthrough in software is needed. Eg Neural nets where once considered AI but the coding was just facilitating a network by normal software means. Nothing new arose.

[Zacs-Master]

So, tell us, scientifically, what thinking is.

[bhg481]

Perhaps the computer was drunk or busy sending a text to its chum, turning round to tell off the kids, tuning the radio, playing with the sat nav. Maybe it fell asleep, had an argument and was in a bad mood. We need to know.

[Gromit]

There are about 1 million car accident fatalities a year cause by human drivers. So autonomous cars have a lot of catching up to do.

The technology will come in sooner than you think. When it does, and everyone is using the system, the number of accidents and fatalities will plummet.

This car did have a driver behind the wheel, so the human driver party of this experiment failed also.