Gawd Help Us, You Can't Even Call Someone By Their Correct Name And Title!

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43557516
So must we now know not only someones name but their preferred appellation?

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, I use capitals for anyone's name on here not only yours.

It's been mentioned several times previously, I have explained why and I'll carry on doing it.

[Cloverjo]

For ages, I thought WhiskeryRon was called WhiskeyRon.

[jim360]

Rumours that this isn't the first time AOG has had trouble with his R's should, of course, be ignored...

[anotheoldgit]

jim360

/// Still, Git is part of your name, so I don't see why you should get so upset about people using it ///

Because it is not my real name, it is in fact an abusive abbreviation of my username.

I chose my user name when AnswerBank was a much more respective site, or rather it's members were.
I chose it because at that time there was a TV programme called 'Old Gits'.



When later it was being used in an offensive way, I tried to change it in an Editor's username amnesty, but I was unsuccessful for some reason, but still it comes back to haunt me.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - given that you have a preferred name by which you wish to be addressed, and you take exception to its abbreviation, does that mean that you agree with my position now, in terms of how I am addressed, and more importantly, do you agree with the Right Honourable Lady taking issue over the way in which she is addressed also?

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

No because Hughes is your real name and as such can be used by anyone without it being deemed offensive, ie Trump, May, Putin, etc, etc. and it can also be used in the workplace etc, ie "Hughes will deal with that" without it being offensive.

Now if your name was being distorted in anyway to make it sound insulting then yes you would have a grievance.

[anotheoldgit]

/// do you agree with the Right Honourable Lady taking issue over the way in which she is addressed also? ///

No it had nothing to do with that squirt Bercow, that is her real name, and there was no call for offence, if she herself was upset about it she should have waited until they were 'out of house' and had a private word with Boris.

[pixie374]

It isn't her real name though. It was wrong and so corrected.
Out of interest, aog, if you met Trump, would you address him as that to his face? Or May?

[andy-hughes]

AOG - // andy-hughes

No because Hughes is your real name and as such can be used by anyone without it being deemed offensive, ie Trump, May, Putin, etc, etc. and it can also be used in the workplace etc, ie "Hughes will deal with that" without it being offensive. //

I think we must agree to differ on this.

Hughes is my surname, it is not the name I am addressed by.

In forty-four years of full-time work, I was never addressed as 'Hughes' once, and I would have taken issue if I had been.

You say my surname can be used 'without offence' - that is clearly not true. I would be offended.

But returning to the OP, it has a lot to do with context, and intent.

The Right Honourable Lady in question is an MP, and the location is the Commons. The Home Secretary addressed her the way he did deliberatly, in order to be sarcastic and rude, that is quite clear to anyone who heard the exchange. He was called out on it by the Speaker, and apologised.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - // No it had nothing to do with that squirt Bercow, that is her real name, and there was no call for offence, if she herself was upset about it she should have waited until they were 'out of house' and had a private word with Boris. //

Whether of not the Right Honourable Lady was upset or not was not actually recorded.

The Speaker responded, not on the basis of any complaint she made to him, but on the basis that he, the Speaker, thought the Home Secretary was behaving inappropriately.

[Peter Pedant]

o god are we STILL agonising over abuses of our internet handles ?

The man Hughes (*) is still gamely and inexhaustibly filling our screens with objections over that.

(*) AOG or 'gitface' to his frenz used that just because he knew it vexed dear sweet inoffensive Andie

Clearly Mr Bercow ( or the man Bercow) had a point

[Togo]

andy hughes, are just initials acceptable?

[vetuste_ennemi]

The most insulting (and therefore quite amusing) misuse of my handle was when someone addressed me as "enema". This was retribution for my having transposed two letters of her sobriquet. She claimed she who once played the part of (the rather more seriously abused) Valinia in Situp Andronicus.

[andy-hughes]

Togo - // andy hughes, are just initials acceptable? //

I think so. I think AOG thinks so as well, although obviously I am not speaking on his behalf.

I am wary of labouring my point here, but I think the entire issue of the OP was not the name that was used - it was the way in which it was used, and the intent behind its use. That is the heart of the issue as I see it.

[bhg481]

jno:20:12 - I still did until I read your post. On the odd occasion I've responded to one of his posts I've referred to him as "Ron", with no objections. I must say that I always try to call people by their preferred name; it's only polite.

[andy-hughes]

bhg - I think as a rule of thumb, if you are not misusing an AB'er's name, real or assumed, to deliberately wind them up or offend them, then it should be OK.

[bhg481]

A-H (?) - I think you're right, both here and in real life.

[Togo]

// it was the way in which it was used, and the intent behind its use.//

I take it then that the House Of Commons is to become a so called "safe space" then? Beloved by our infestation of readily offended, and quick to cry before hurt. Bless.........Meehh.

[Togo]

Lol @bhg. (^_*)

[andy-hughes]

Togo - // // it was the way in which it was used, and the intent behind its use.//

I take it then that the House Of Commons is to become a so called "safe space" then? Beloved by our infestation of readily offended, and quick to cry before hurt. Bless.........Meehh. //

Hardly! The Commons thrives on its lively exchanges, it is absolutely not a place for shrinking violets - rather like the News Section!

But to be accurate, this issue did not arise because the Right Honourable Lady was offended, or indeed not - her reaction is not a matter of record.

The incident arose because The Speaker decided that the Home Secretary's use of her name, and the context and demeanour with which he used it, was in-Parliamentary, and he called it out, as he is entitled to do.