A Step In The Right Direction?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-43563164
It seems we will be adopting the Norwegian approach.

[ummmm]

Not everyone can manage to get to recycling centres.

[vulcan42]

Am I missing something here?
We don't get rewarded if we return the items, we get penalised if we don't.

[naomi24]

Ummmm, I live in a very rural area. People seem to manage well enough.

Vulcan, that's another way of looking at it.

[Old_Geezer]

You get individually penalised, but society as a whole still benefits because others comply. And your neighbourhood kids might directly benefit from returning your items.

[hereIam]

So it's not enough now to put them in the recycling bin ???

[naomi24]

hereIam, I think it's suggested because a lot of people don't bother to recycle and have no objection to chucking rubbish wherever it suits them to chuck it.

[hereIam]

But will that change naomi and I wonder how they will 'police' it ?

[naomi24]

HereIam, I don't think there's any intention to police it. It's just an incentive for people to recycle. Pay a bit more for the product and get some money back when you return the empty container. There's no doubt that some will still end up being chucked. People who throw litter and rubbish about really annoy me.

[hereIam]

It annoys me too and there will still be plenty who do it, despite this. I hope it will still be enough to put them in the recycling bin as I can't be bothered lugging empty cans etc. back to the shops with my poor old arthritic knee ...

[naomi24]

Infuriating isn't it. Nothing annoys me more than seeing people throw their McDonald's bags and other rubbish out of car windows into hedgerows. Why can't they just flipping well take it home with them like the rest of us do?!!!

TTT's idea was good. Perhaps the scouts and other organisations will organise collections. I imagine some of the charity shops will take the opportunity to make a bit of extra cash too.

[hereIam]

That would be a good idea naomi.

[hc4361]

How would it start? On day one would every bottle and can returned receive a 'deposit' back even if they were bought in the weeks/months before the scheme started? That would prove very expensive for those responsible for paying the deposits back.
Would the bottles and cans have to have a 'deposit paid' stamp to qualify? That would be time consuming at both the point of sale and return.

[ToraToraTora]

hereiam, even if it doesn't change the bottles will be collected by all manner of charity, scouts etc.
Vulcan no you are not missing something you pay up front if you choose not to recycle.
hc when it starts they will have special bar codes, only those can be recycled and the seller must recycle them.
Naomi: that's part of the attraction all manner of charities can collect and benefit it we chose not to go to the bother of claiming back the deposit.

[ToraToraTora]

HC: "Would the bottles and cans have to have a 'deposit paid' stamp to qualify? That would be time consuming at both the point of sale and return. " - no a machine collects them an presses them and prints a voucher. See here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42953038

[DTCwordfan]

can I hand my apartment back in and get the deposit back?

[DTCwordfan]

naomi, not around here....for the first time in six years, I have seen the Council in the lanes collecting the plastic s.yte....

I've been onto Sarah Newton MP - as why don't they offer road/lane cleaning to the unemployed, say to an extra 20hrs a week, and pay for them to clean our hedgerows - additional income over the basic support, the chance to do something, the chance to be part of a team and the chance to benefit the environment as well as themselves.....

[naomi24]

DFTC, what about the people who are handed Community Service? They could surely be deployed in helping to tidy up.

[naomi24]

Sorry, DTC. Don't know where the rogue F came from.

[ToraToraTora]

forget all that, after this goes live there'll be an army of saucepans collecting everywhere.

[-Talbot-]

Some really negative attitudes.

The sooner they do it the better as far as I'm concerned.