Let's Do The Usual Dance......

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-43639183
I'll start, give the guy a medal, one less low life........

[sunny-dave]

Are the gnomes operating some sort of bonus scheme for generating 'discussion' - if so how do I register - I'll be in Kettering later today ... ?

[gness]

Thank you, Baldric......

So Spath.....if that is the case and in the act of forcing the man into the kitchen the burglar fell onto the screwdriver.....still murder?

[gness]

Spath....I have asked you two questions about this now......your new role must surely involve answering us too?

[dannyk13]

Spath, re your post at 12.28 with a description of what happened.Were you hiding in the kitchen cupboard? None of what you describe is mentioned in the report.

[dannyk13]

Spath, please answer my post at 12.47.

[sunny-dave]

1 : If I am told there will be a burglary at my house and sit waiting with a shotgun & then shoot the burglar in the back - that is (arguably) murder.

2 : If I disturb an unexpected armed intruder and he gets stabbed in a struggle then that is almost certainly self-defence.

There are obviously shades of grey between the two situations - but I'd say this one is much much much nearer to scenario 2 than scenario 1.

[gness]

Thanks, Spath....so he should have obliged the burglars........would that be considered aiding and abetting?

[anneasquith]

" sheer speculation" indeed most of this thread is speculation. In truth a dreadful day for all concerned . The truth will emerge soon enough .

[Jackdaw33]

I simply cannot believe that some on here are taking the side of the 'victim'.

[dannyk13]

Spath, you are speculating again.How do you know that the burglar did not instigate the attack?

[ummmm]

Jack - 1 person is!

[naomi24]

I haven't read all the posts, but I have no sympathy whatsoever for burglars. None. If they're killed in the process of following their chosen occupation, tough.

[Eleena]

Agree Naomi.

[melv16]

He'll get done for manslaughter and get a suspended sentence for self defence. He should face a trial as he's killed someone.

[ChillDoubt]

With any luck he'll have Bob Massingbird as his defence counsel.....
(Relative scene starts at 7 minutes in)

[ChillDoubt]

On a serious note, one less vermin who'll be terrorising innocent, elderly and vulnerable people in their own homes.
Hope the accomplice gets a kicking inside too....