Should Rudd Go?

[Kromovaracun]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43902599

Amber Rudd has today admitted that the Home Office uses deportation quotas for illegal immigrants. On Wednesday, she told Parliament that such quotas did not exist. Furthermore, she now claims that she was not aware of them.

Surely this is a sackable offense? The Home Office cannot easily reconcile "case-by-case" investigation to determine whether someone is illegal if it also operates under a quota system, as the Windrush scandal demonstrates quite clearly. Furthermore, how terrible a Home Secretary must Rudd be if she was never aware of such a far-reaching aspect of UK immigration policy?

[Zacs-Master]

Ah, another posts criticising the incumbent Government. You know, the one's who will have all the power in a short while, because they're so much better than the EU.

Shakes head.

[Old_Geezer]

Targets for sorting a known issue isn't a bad thing as such; just so long as it doesn't mean the wrong folk are processed. I think she should get on with sorting the mess out, ensuring those entitled to be here are allowed to be here unhassled, whilst illegals are removed as quickly as is practical.

[Old_Geezer]

You can change the ones here. Those in the EU are untouchable. No contest.

[Kromovaracun]

"As quickly as is practical" is not really consistent with a quota policy, though. I think (hope) everyone agrees that people who are not here legally need to be deported, but the idea that you can manage this by having a periodic target for deportations is risible and is guaranteed to snap up innocent people in the drive to meet the quota.

[Kromovaracun]

NOT ANOTHER EU THREAD.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PLEASE.
NOT ANOTHER ONE.

[Old_Geezer]

No such guarantee. Goals are as failed to be hit by getting it wrong just as much as they are by not doing enough.

[Quizmonster]

Given the way the government has just been drifting from one disaster to the next, I can't see how they'd be any worse off if they went completely RUDD(er)less!

[ToraToraTora]

windrush was induced by Labour in 2009, through fear of the Data protection act. It is possible to have a quota as well as a process in parallel.

[youngmafbog]

Of course it is TTT, but the person at the top needs to keep a strong hand on the tiller to prevent civil servants with an agenda manipulation the system. And that goes for left and right.

[cassa333]

So when is Corbyn going? He made a total hash of dealing with and rooting out anti-semitism and even alienated the very group he went to show he was dealing with it.

Should Rudd go? No. As has been pointed out already quotas and due process can work well together quite nicely.

If every MP who makes a mistake were to be made to resign we wouldn't have a parliament left. Because every one of them from all parties and all colour of flag have bogged I there up at some point. Just look at Diane Abbott for goodness sake.

[Zacs-Master]

Cassa, you're describing the people you want to take over from the EU.

[jno]

[i]quotas and due process can work well together quite nicely[i[

but, to put it mildly, haven't.

[Kromovaracun]

//Should Rudd go? No. As has been pointed out already quotas and due process can work well together quite nicely. //

Everybody keeps asserting this. I fail to see how. Rudd herself certainly doesn't seem to think so - she describes not wanting to create a target-based culture (and managed it anyway) and denies any knowledge or involvement in these quotas, which surely casts serious doubt on her suitability for office.

At what point will people actually start holding the people in power responsible? Nobody seems interested in the Lycamobile scandal, and the most anyone seems capable of in this case is some half-baked theory about civil servants hatching an evil plan to destroy the government. What's the reason for this supine loyalty? At what point will people actually start holding the government accountable?

[Kromovaracun]

Also Zacs it does not help to try and drag every single thread onto Brexit.

[Zacs-Master]

But it’s all pertinent ain’t it!