The Eu (Next) Parliament.

[Khandro]

What do you think about Steve Bannon's plan?

[ToraToraTora]

sorry it's blocked, what is the plan?

[Gromit]

Not much.

It is just a coalition of far right nutjobs throughout Europe. He will need to do a lot of work to get UKIP from 0 MPs to the point where they take over. And Bannon intends to employ just 10 people across Europe to accomplish this take over of the EU.
He ran Breitbart, so he knows there are a lot of suckers out there that will believe his lies.

[Gromit]

TTT

// Donald Trump's former adviser Steve Bannon is setting up a foundation to boost the spread of far-right political groups across Europe.
Since his departure from the White House in August last year, the former Breitbart editor has met a series of right-wing leaders including France's Marine Le Pen, Alice Weidel of Alternative for Germany, Hungary's Viktor Orban and Nigel Farage.
The Movement is expected to hire up to 10 full-time staff and set up a headquarters in Brussels ahead of the 2019 elections. However Mr Bannon did not indicate how the project would be funded.
He said he believed that "right-wing populist nationalism" is the future of Europe after decades of integration. //

[ToraToraTora]

there's not much right of the Labour party at the moment!

[Gromit]

The populist right are making advances across Europe at the moment. But in Britain, the electorial system prevents any such thing here. UKIP peaked at 4 million votes, and that got 0 representation in Parliament.

[ToraToraTora]

yes gromit but surely the Labour party are the latest right wing threat?

[ToraToraTora]

anti semitic, homophobic, racist, take your pick it's a full house these days.

[Khandro]

Gromit; From your tone, do I take it think the status quo in the EU Parliament is fine, and requires no alteration?
Have you really looked at the state of Europe at the moment, which it has led us into?
Do I have to spell it out?

[New Judge]

Have Mr Bannon, and Tim Martin, Chairman and founder of pub chain J D Wetherspoon, ever been seen in the same room at the same time?

[Khandro]

Yes I think they often have a pint together :0)

[Khandro]

^^ and wouldn't I love to join them, that would be a good night out!

[Theland]

Would the Europhiles really want to strip us of democracy?
Why?

[New Judge]

We have already been stripped of our democracy. The percentage of legislation that reaches the UK Statute books that originates from the EU is disputed but it is common ground that it is substantial. The UK Parliament plays no part in its formulation and has no veto over its implementation (short of either (a) refusing to implement it and so suffer the wrath of the ECJ or (b) leaving the EU entirely). A nation that has laws imposed on it by a foreign legislature over which it has no control has lost its democracy.

[Theland]

One day it will be pitchforks and barricades.

[Garaman]

What NJ says is not strictly correct, again. A democracy can elect to have an external body handle legislation - it would still be a democracy.

[New Judge]

"A democracy can elect to have an external body handle legislation - it would still be a democracy."

But we haven't done that and I don't know any country that has. What has happened in the UK (and the other 27 EU nations to a greater or lesser degree) is that their democracy has been stripped by stealth. The later entrants knew (most of) what they were signing up to. The longer term members - the UK included - have seen the legislation in a gradually increasing number of areas removed from their control. And that number will increase.

[Old_Geezer]

It's questionable whether a "representative democracy" is a democracy since the government acts as an elected elite and does it's own thing. The idea that hiving out the work to some other elite, who has b all interest in the electrorate, is still a democracy would be laughable were it not so serious. Even more serious is that someone would suggest it might be.

[Gromit]

Our democracy is a bit of a sham isn’t it.

Out of an electorate of 46 million, just 13.5 million voted Conservative, but we get a Tory Government. The two thirds who didn’t want them have no representation in the Government. As a model for democracy, it is extremely poor.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Who elects (or is it nominates) the members of the EU Commission? All of whom renounce national interests in support of EU integration.

[Gromit]

EU Commissioners are nominated by the elected Governments of the member States. Julian King was nominated by David Cameron’s Government as was his predecessor Jonathan Hill.
Commissioners are tasked with making policy and carrying out those policies once they have been approved in a vote by elected MEPs.
It may not be perfect, it is not as undemocratic as brexiters make out.