Shouldn’T A Policeman Know The Answer.?

[webbo3]

I think he needs retraining and a desk job.

https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/08/04/british-police-officer-asked-culturally-acceptable-iraqi-date-12-year-old/


Unfortunately you need to subscribe to read the whole article.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/forced-marriage-officer-asked-if-iraqi-man-could-date-a-12-year-old-3ngwf9cm2

[-Talbot-]

When people run in circles, it's a very very........

[Mamyalynne]

Yes, the Police should know the answer.

[jourdain2]

Yes. Anyone should know the answer to that.

[naomi24]

//Yes, the Police should know the answer. //

For a British Police officer the question shouldn't even be considered!! Sheesh!!

[Old_Geezer]

Just arrest, gaol, and throw away the key. Same in any culture worth being sensitive about.

[Gromit]

A Breitbart link, so I know it’s going to be nonsense.

An anonymous policeman from an unknown force at some unspecified time, consults an obscure website for ‘victims of honour based abuse and forced marriage’ (so no preconceptions there).
Basically there are no facts to indicate this story is true. It could have been anyone phoning up, claiming to be a dumb cop. A genuine police officer would consult the Home Office, or even his own force before going to this site.
It is more likely it was a journalist or activist asking whether it was a defence for a muslim to have activity with a pre-teen, in the hope of catching them outa making a sensationalist story.

Either way, the story as presented, is unverifyable, and fake.

[-Talbot-]

A Breitbart link, so I know it’s going to be nonsense.


Says Gromit completely ignoring the Times link.

Follow Karma Nirvana on Twitter and open u our eyes.

Or ignore it and its not happening... that seems to work.

[Hopkirk]

Talbot, he may not have ignored the Times article, just been unable to access it. It is behind a paywall.

[-Talbot-]

He clearly ignored it.

The charity, which works with victims of forced marriage, said that the case showed the danger of officers whose professional judgment was clouded by fear of being called racist.

The call log, shared with The Times, says that the policeman asked for advice because “the accused is stating that it is ‘completely acceptable in my…


You can read that without paying to have the pay-wall removed.

Of course he may think The Times are dishing out fake news too.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Fake news?

Manchester and Yorkshire police forces turned a blind eye to the rape of twelve-year old girls by Muslim rape gangs for ten years.

Fact not fake. Anybody wish to contest that? You, Gromit?

Most recent example of possibly a thousand under-age victims and two hundred possible perpetrators being ignored by the police is Telford (March this year, anyone?)

So this latest example of someone in uniform subordinating the welfare of a child to the interests of social cohesion is, if not true, at least plausible.

[Peter Pedant]

but I do sub
and it is basically as is ....
the charity said - no exceptions - treat like anyone else.

I thought he was treating it like theft or a nieghbour dispute - do anything to avoid recording and acting on it ....

and yes I thought the charity suggested as a comment he needed ....

but as a snowflake sociolinguist ( amateur only)[in training]{oart time] it did help to explain and give insight into the non-action in Rochdale and the other places.

[Peter Pedant]

oops duplicated post
same theme as v-e

[Peter Pedant]

// So this latest example of someone in uniform subordinating the welfare of a child to the interests of social cohesion is, if not true, at least plausible. //

erm no - take your paper crown of sanctity off v-e
latest example of .... TRYING to subordinate the welfare of a child

(actually trumped by the Children Act 1989 - the interests of the child are paramount - so yes he SHOULD know that one)

[vetuste_ennemi]

//(actually trumped by the Children Act 1989 - the interests of the child are paramount - so yes he SHOULD know that one) //

I thought I was making (oops - TRYING to make) the point that the police have consistently failed to protect children. Which doesn't require legal statutes. That's for jurists and lawyers.

Decency does not reside in codes, hpwever formulated, it resides in the hearts of men else it resides not at all.

Paper crown?

Paper clown.

(Poorly remembered quote from the trial of William Blyth - Marlon Brando/Trevor howard film version).

[vetuste_ennemi]

(Damn: wasn't a trial. A court martial? Or marine or marinaded, who knows?)

[Peter Pedant]

// The point that the police have consistently failed to protect children. Which doesn't require legal statutes. That's for jurists and lawyers. //

oh come on ! more sugar in that sunday cuppa coffee ! and get glucose to that Correctness Centre in the brayne!

yes there are legal statutes ( about child interests) which affect us all as the Law is not only for jurists, lawyers and snowflakes - but for the man in the streeet too .... (butcha kinda really knew that)

[vetuste_ennemi]

Why are the Telford rapists not being prosecuted?

Same question (with few exceptions for most egregious examples of abuse - like we can't cover it up any more - let's get ten of them and hope nobody does us for complicity and the media will forget about it) about all past cases Oxford, Bradford etc etc let's do Yul Brunner in the Kink and I.

You do understand the question innit foo den. We're not talking law or brain, we're talking decency foo den cuff dat.

And Mamyalynne's got you on speed dial..

[ichkeria]

I don’t think it’s that outrageous. A suspect told him ‘x’ and he decided to check out ‘x’ with someone who’d know. And he was told the right course of action.
You can’t expect people to know Iraqi culture.
Of course the issue is what would have happened if - somehow - the advice had been ‘of course it’s fine release him’
But checking up on what someone tells you seems a sensible move to me: even if it’s only for interest