Can Rice Be Cultural Appropriated ?

[webbo3]

Can rice be cultural appropriated ?, labour mp Dawn Butler thinks so.
https://twitter.com/DawnButlerBrent/status/1030741609984548864

[Prudie]

So is the difference Dawn Butler can cook roast beef and yorkshires but if she sold it or posted her recipe as Butlers beef and yorkies then its culturally appropriated? It's actually become a thread that's difficult to add to because unless you are Jim or kval you're a thicko, as usual.

[jim360]

No, that's not it either Prudie. Nor are you a thicko if you are not me, that's a ludicrous assertion.

All I'm asking is for people to read into the concept seriously, and try to understand it, before they ridicule it or anyone talking about it. If, as is self-evident, people aren't doing so, then it stands to reason that what they are saying is simply wrong or misunderstanding of the topic. What's the harm in trying to understand something first?

[kvalidir]

I never suggested anyone was thick at all, I spoke once on this thread very early on to say yes technically he was appropriating it but in the real world it doesn't flaming matter because it won't make a positive difference if he doesn't. At no point did I call ANYONE a thicko.

[-Talbot-]

Who said you did?

[Togo]

I like my rice pudding thick.

[naomi24]

^ Haaa! Very good. :o)

[LadyCG]

I like my rice pudding white, racist that I am. ;-)

[Prudie]

I never said you did kval, unfortunately you have been included because Jim said only ONE other person on this thread understands what it's all about and he meant you. The rest of us (certainly me) clearly don't.

[jim360]

But I wasn't calling you (or anyone else) a thicko either.

[Prudie]

You would never say that outright

[jim360]

I think you (and most other people on this thread) don't understand the concept of cultural appropriation. That's all I would go so far as to say or think, explicitly or otherwise.

[-Talbot-]

Jim would never patronise us thicko's, Prudie.

[-Talbot-]

Well...perhaps...possibly, maybe.

[Old_Geezer]

You still have the option of roast beef Yorkshire puddings and two veg, AOG.

[Spicerack]

Let the young uns explain stuff to us while they still know everything.
We know one thing they don't know (yet).

[andy-hughes]

jim360 - // hilst I'm not necessarily expecting people to agree with this woman, it would be nice if Andy-Hughes and company could at least bother to think more critically about that which they are dismissing so out-of-hand.

I've explained Cultural Appropriation, in its real sense, before -- it's disappointing to see that A-H hasn't taken any note of it; nor of kvalidir's answer, which also properly captures the point Ms Butler is trying to make. //

If you have offered your explanation (as opposed to what you infer is your delivery of the definitive definition) of what 'cultural appropriation' is - then I have either not read it, or it made insufficient impact on me to remember it.

As I see it, culture is a vast and ever-changing set of circumstances, it cannot be 'appropriated' by anyone because it is not owned by anyone.

By definition, culture belongs to everyone, and everyone is free to borrow and assimilate anything from any culture, because that is how culture develops.

If we had 'appropriated' culture from the cultures who visited our shores - Vikings, Romans and so on, we'd probably still be living in mud huts!

It's only because you have 'culturally appropriated' the Internet that we are having this conversation.

[douglas9401]

Well I like my rice pudding a la Bob Marley, wi' jam in.

[sanmac]

Naomi24 at 1520, obviously it wasn't that good at all:)