Another One Comes Back To Bite Him, He Has Got To Go

[Baldric]

https://news.sky.com/story/jewish-mp-feels-unwelcome-in-labour-after-jeremy-corbyn-zionistcomments-11480739

[ladybirder]

I agree Keir Starmer is the one to watch. He is the one I would least like to see leading the Labour Party, because I'm a Tory.

[Spicerack]

Keir Starmer- Thick as two short planks.
Make an excellent leader.

[andy-hughes]

My perception of Jeremy Corbyn is that he remains what he has always been, an idealistic agitator who has never been close to actually having to defend his thoughts and ideas, and that applies even now.

The utter nonsense that the Party puts forward as its plans for power can only be dreamed up by individuals who are safe in the knowledge that they are about as likely to have political power as I am to date Liz Hurley.


Actually, thinking about it, the odds are seriously more in my favour - and they are astronomically small!!!!

[anneasquith]

How is Liz Andy?

[ladybirder]

"thick as two short planks" Jack? I wish he was but he's not is he?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keir_Starmer

[andy-hughes]

anne - // How is Liz Andy? //

Sorry, you've lost me - ?

[ladybirder]

Sorry my 21.34 post was to Spice.

[youngmafbog]

Does anyone else find it interesting that traditional labour voters no longer have a traditioanl party to vote for but neither do traditioanl Tories?

Labour has become a bunch of commies and the Tories are now akinto a liberal party under Treason May.

[Spicerack]

Wikipedia, lol. Lammy's page is more impressive. ;-)
I appear to have an advantage over you, LB. I've heard him trying to speak.

[rowanwitch]

Oh no please keep them all , it's like a nightmare Yes minister meets the munsters

[Quizmonster]

For those who clearly do not grasp the difference between the words, 'Jew' and 'Zionist', I suggest you refer to any adequate dictionary.

[Kromovaracun]

//For those who clearly do not grasp the difference between the words, 'Jew' and 'Zionist', I suggest you refer to any adequate dictionary.//

If you listen to way he uses the word 'Zionist' in that speech though, it really doesn't make any sense unless it's a code for 'Jew'. This has even rattled people who were long-term supporters of him:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/24/jeremy-corbyn-antisemitism-labour-zionists-2013-speech

In fairness this same argument - i.e. what to do when a party whose policies you like houses racists and extremists - came up quite seriously when UKIP were first doing well in the polls. I recall plenty of people at the time saying they were quite happy to risk voting in racists and misogynists because the policies at stake were too important to them to think about anything else.

Still, that was a wrongful position then and it's a wrongful position now. There's a clearly a serious problem in Labour and it's extremely difficult to consider voting for them in good conscience.

[Quizmonster]

There may well be a serious problem for Labour re antisemitism, but it's no worse than the very similar problem for Tories re their anti-Islamic views.
The Muslim Council in Britain called for a public enquiry into that some weeks ago, as did some of the Conseravatives' very own peers, a suggestion that appears to have been dismissed out of hand even after Johnson's hijab, bank-robber letter-box crusade.
Even within Labour, we had Margaret Hodge claiming that facing a Labour hearing in 2018 London was the same as cowering in a cellar in 1930s Berlin while Nazi goons were battering on the street door above. She felt, she said, "As if they were coming for me." Totally out of touch with reality, surely?
This whole antisemitism thing has just got out of hand and it's time the playing-field was levelled. Corbyn is no anti-Semite and the speech was from five years ago. It is all just a Tory - and internal Labour anti-Corbynist - attempt to besmirch him in the hope that it will tell if there is yet another election called out of the blue by the Maybot and her fractious Cabinet.

[mushroom25]

//Even within Labour, we had Margaret Hodge claiming that facing a Labour hearing in 2018 London was the same as cowering in a cellar in 1930s Berlin while Nazi goons were battering on the street door above. She felt, she said, "As if they were coming for me." Totally out of touch with reality, surely? //

possibly. and yet, there are reports in the media that jewish delegates to the labour party conference will have bodyguards, as laura kuenssberg did at last year's event. does this set the tone of the labour party's definition of conference debate? agree with us or we'll send the boys round?